It’s funny, Decamp in his updated Franklin book plays the victim in the destruction of Oklahoma City evidence, but, quite frankly, he IS the one who allowed the evidence to be destroyed! Painting a clearer picture of the Phoenix program (and it’s connection to much of America’s “serial murders”) will greatly help expose not only DeCamp, but Bob Kerrey, Michael Aquion, John Kerrey, George Bush, William Colby, and quite a few others. The book I share sometimes – “Programmed to Kill” by Dave McGowan (really the father of this new, disjointed truth movement) goes a long ways towards explaining some of these things.

i actually bought Programmed to Kill and am going to start reading it this week. I wanted to show this comment on my blog- first because I was unaware of what was presented about John DeCamp and the Oklahoma City bombing- as I have an older version of his book- but also to point out what I am saying about how connected Mr. DeCamp is to all of the most controversial cases in America.

The problem is, most of us are merely preaching to the choir, so to speak, and mainstream America needs clear, brief, sensational sound/video bytes from what they consider to be a reputable source to actually plant the seeds in their heads. Unfortunately, the only ones with the funding and exposure to do this are liars like Alex Jones who are only leading a majority of the choir farther into fantasy land which further discredits those who understand and seek the truth. A lot of good detective work by people like you and I is going nowhere because the “choir” is looking in the wrong direction and mainstream America is convinced we are paranoid lunatics or gullible idiots.

i know exactly how this person feels- as when I speak about things often people’s eyes start to glaze over after awhile and I have found it difficult to explain in any cohesive way verbally- which is why I wrote Rabbit Hole and have this blog. However- the sound byte thing is exactly what I was saying last night- it MUST be introduced but to do so is going to take a LOT of time and effort.

We need to find a way to link up and then force our information in an eye catching fashion (with simple, undisputable facts which contradict popular beliefs) on those who aren’t interested/aware/believing in this sort of thing. However, those who might care are so wrapped up in the lie of partisan politics that they can’t separate themselves and consider the even stranger reality of what is really going on (and has been). Also, some of us like to argue with those who disagree (part of our mass mind conditioning – and possibly human nature), which only helps reinforce the divide. It may be a lost cause, but there ARE simple historical truths (opposing nations in centuries of European warfare were all led by monarchs who were related to each other, for example) which make the logic of what we are saying irrefutable. Unfortunately, most people want to either blame it on Leftists/Rightists or simply yawn and go back to watching TV. I’m every bit as frustrated as you (and so are more than a few others), but we are under attack from the powers that be as well as people like Alex Jones and Ron Paul from within our own movement. David had a much easier time with Goliath than we will have with this – unless we really get super powers after the 2012 Winter Solstice, lol – but I’m not holding my breath……………..

I don’t think we are going to get super powers- but I do think that if we all keep working at this in some concerted effort- we could very well expose the “man behind the curtain”, and in the process show that the other side is ALSO without super powers. I know for a fact that the other side understands human nature quite well- which is why it has been easy for people working to expose this to be induced into fighting- because that is what the other side is best at- making people fight. However- the internet has made it MUCH easier to be heard in some strange ways- and so I believe that the whole dynamics of this fight is quickly changing- and we might see people wake up to all of this sooner than we think…

I have been accused of being angry- in fact, that is the main argument that is being used in my online character assassination- as recently as yesterday when some anonymous “Sara” gave me psychological advice while leaving me a terrible review on Amazon- again more about my character than the book itself- and the fact that she thinks I am horrible being angry with Noreen Gosch. I guess now is the time to say- yeah- I am pretty frustrated and it borders on rage at times- but let me explain why, so that perhaps you might understand where I am coming from with all of this.

There is a great deal of motivation to keep what I am saying quiet- because if it came out in mass- people would actually realize what was really going on here in Omaha- and they might wake up to the whole problem we have with the American society in the fact that we MUST stop dismissing the “indiscretions” of the rich just because all of us want to BE rich. In this conquest to expose what really happened here in Omaha, I have not only had to deal with a concerted effort on the other side to intimidate and silence me- even having one of my booksellers getting a threatening three o’clock visit from someone to scare him from carrying my book, but I have found the survivor side to be enmeshed in this weird unquestionable loyalty to those who I believe have been instrumental in covering up and distorting the real truth from coming out- such as John DeCamp and Noreen Gosch.

To me- it is brilliant. Franklin is wrapped up in a group of people that, because of social morays, are beyond reproach simply because of their titles in this. Take Noreen Gosch for example. It is just not good manners to speak about a woman who lost her son- and she even has websites glorifying her efforts- however, she DIDN’T live in Omaha- nor does she now- and yet she speaks like she is an authority. However, my sister, who complained about Noreen calling her a liar because she has the phone records showing the fact that Noreen was driving her crazy with late night phone calls, pointed out something that is, I believe, key in all of this. THERE IS NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS FOR MURDER. And if her family WAS involved in the disappearance of their son- as she has told me, giving me her ex-husbands physical address in the process- knowing that I was going to write a letter confronting him (of which I have the original hand written copy), then there is much more to the story than she would like to come out. The ONLY proof the woman has that the guy is still alive is because of stories from Paul Bonnaci- who willingly inserted himself into this 30 years ago when Franklin Credit was heavy in the news.

I have already detailed my problems with Paul’s selective amnesia when it comes to his own hometown that he has lived in all of his life- but what really concerns me is John DeCamp- who brings this whole group together, associating it with Franklin Credit. This is a man who was instrumental in the investigations in Omaha- and yet- how is it that he was unaware of what was really going on here? My contention is that there is no way he could not have known the truth- and the truth is that his history in the past 30 years is to associate with any case that he believes could actually be a gravy train for him. Harsh- but he was heavily involved with Franklin, then he got involved enough with the Columbine case to send 8 boxes of info with Mark Taylor’s mother back to Colorado with her. I know this for a fact because those boxes were in my house and I was able to physically sort through what would have taken a normal individual at least a year to read through and decipher because there was so much info in those boxes.

Now DeCamp is telling people that he figured out the whole situation with Penn State ten years ago. In my opinion- it is a strange attempt to tie Franklin and Johnny Gosch to Penn State in order to discredit the fact that Sandusky was doing the same thing with his foundation that was happening in Omaha in the 80’s with basically the same people that were involved before, by associating it with things that have ALREADY been deemed a conspiracy theory for the most part in people’s minds, (Which is a major irritation for me to be quite honest). There was a major spin on Franklin in the 80’s to cover it up- and it has worked brilliantly for three decades now- so why is it illogical that a spin wouldn’t be tried on Penn State to cover it up, since it is a grandchild of situations here in Omaha? And since this situation with Franklin has presented itself in such a way to try and associate itself with the events of Penn State by way of John DeCamp- why wouldn’t/couldn’t it be held to be questionable- esp. considering the history?

Media wise- there have been NUMBEROUS articles going on and on about Nick Bryant’s book The Franklin Scandal- trying to push the same old story that has kept this situation quiet for the last thirty years. Here is a man from New York, who came to Omaha and spoke to ALL THE SAME PEOPLE, spent 6 years traveling to the area (but never living here), now claiming that he is THE authority on Franklin and what happened in Omaha- and yet- there are MAJOR details kept from his tale- just like last time. Last time the False Memory Foundation was used to discredit the claims of the victims, but this time- after what American society has dealt with regarding the Catholic Church conspiracies of pedophiles being hidden in the church and the conspiracies of silence that surrounded Sandusky due to the money that would have been lost had the truth come out years before- it is pretty hard to claim that all of those were victims of multiple personality disorders inspired by Sybil as Debbie Nathan suggests in her book Sybil Exposed regarding our nations history with “satanic panic”. Of course- considering that this conspiracy of women who were being convinced that they had multiple personality disorders by their therapists in order to take some day cares down happened BEFORE the internet- one wonders exactly who was powerful enough and connected enough to cause such a “carefully crafted hoax”. It has never been explained- not even by Bryant- who is the authority on Omaha I guess.

One thing that is somewhat insidious about the American media is that most of the time- when it wants to spin a story- it does it in small, constant increments. A belief I was taught by my handler as a child is that if you tell a lie long enough and strong enough- the lie will become the truth itself. It is a matter of controlling perception- which I assure you our leaders have become very adept at controlling. However, that can’t happen if someone who KNOWS the truth keeps talking about the truth. Often the truth NEEDS to be fought for, despite what the majority thinks of it. I think that the official story being promoted about Franklin is a spin- and because of that belief- I have to also believe that it is being revived and re-spun for a reason, and that reason could be associated with this whole push to enmesh Franklin with Penn State in the media.

My anger is basically because I have been attacked over and over because of this belief- in ways that would infuriate anyone if they were in my shoes. I know we live in a politically correct society where righteous anger is viewed as mentally unbalanced- but let me be clear. In this situation- I have been robbed of both parents- my older sister was murdered- not to mention one of my dearest friends- and all to keep all of this quiet. I have been called a pedophile- a liar- crazy- angry- unstable- and yet NOT ONCE have the FACTS THAT I HAVE PRESENTED been dealt with. It is all about character attack- and that is frustrating. I am not angry just about that- but people have to realize how much I believe to be on the line here! The child trafficking that I experienced in Omaha all my life didn’t go away but instead grew in complexity- and it is this that I am trying to stop. There are STILL victims to this, and they are going through even worse things than some of us went through- and this denial to question logically the situations that I am talking about and ignorantly and blindly follow the people who I believe are instrumental in helping to cover all of this is enough to drive me batty sometimes.

That is why I have decided to take a break for a bit. I am in the process of re-writing some of my book and adding more to the story- and so that is going to take some time and I need it to reevaluate my place in all of this. There HAS to be more to life than all of this chaos- and I am only one man. Even “Sara” on Amazon called me brilliant- so why it is so hard for people to at least consider what I am saying is beyond me- and I am tired of the emotional roller-coaster that has presented itself with all of this.

As far as the NATRC- I am no longer affiliated with the group and that is one of the things I am removing from my book. I do not wish to go into detail over the fall out- except that I will say that in my estimation in the past two years we have done everything we can to establish rules to disenfranchise and ban anyone who disagreed with the group- and, going against my nature, I feel that it is best that I part ways with such a power play. It is my contention that there SHOULDN’T be just one leader in this movement but rather a concerted effort of leaders who are helping promote each other to expose this mess, and not only is it not just about me- but it is about ALL OF US STANDING TOGETHER. In my estimation- todays survivors don’t know how to stand together- and that some of the leaders- esp. in other countries such as Canada, are complete opportunists looking to profit any way they can by spouting such things as they were “note takers” for the cult (which is ridiculous because anyone other than the adults doing such a thing would have been murdered- logically) and “fed grapes to the cult leaders like they did in Roman days”, stories that NO REAL SURVIVOR is going to connect too. This has probably been the straw that broke everything for me- because the survivor side is just as destructive as the side that is trying to cover all of this up- and both are just as disillusioned by their own ability to control the truth from really coming out.

Anyway- I have heard the claim that I am angry- and I just wanted to say, long story short, that I agree and that there are definite choices I must make with all of this in order to change it. Thanks for listening…

I took Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story down off Amazon in order to remove the info about the NATRC- which I have come to the conclusion is pretty dysfunctional and unsafe for survivors, and have decided to add MUCH MORE about the Johnny Gosch case to the book- so those of you who have actually already bought a copy- realize that a much better edition will be on its way next week. Thanks for all your support!!

ADDRESSING RUMORS

Noreen Gosch:
RUMORS:

There are a few rumors floating around started by various people. I just want to let the people on Franklin Files know they are false:

1. Johnny was kidnapped by aliens in a space ship. – NO THIS IS NOT TRUE… GOOD LORD

2. Johnny is not Noreen’s son. – NOT TRUE …… JOHNNY IS DEFINITELY NOREEN’S SON

3. 20/20 planning a big TV show about the 30th Anniversary . NO THIS IS NOT TRUE. THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE DEFINITELY SPREADING THIS ONE LATELY. WHERE THEY COME UP WITH THESE WILD CLAIMS, I HAVE NO IDEA

If I hear more rumors, I will correct them as time goes on.

ME:

how about addressing what I wrote on my blog?

I got the 20/20 rumor in here actually- from reading the conversation between Iowagurl and rbeck.

Noreen Gosch

I am not interested in your blog….

There is no 20/20 show being planned… LOL

ME Thats fine. Your one of the few….

Thanks for at least being cordial this time.

Canter: I remember the chat with rbeck, iowagurl and lulu. It was shortly after Lukej made the post that there is new evidence, etc, etc. In the chat, statements were made and a short discussion of a tv movie being made and a new 20/20 special. I guess mods get wrong info also.

ME:

lol- there is always new evidence coming forth. Even after thirty years…

Of course what that info is is a question…

NOREEN GOSCH Carter,

Yes the information about a 20/20 movie is false. Don’t know where things like that get started

but never the less … it is incorrect.

Thanks for your comment.

Noreen Gosch: David,

Not interested inany of your information or blogs.

ME: lol Luke- that goes without saying.

At least you didn’t go on a rant at the last one, like all the others.

But as you see- I am not the one who started any rumors. I am just the one dealing with them…

IOWAGURL Hello, it is not suprising that if that discussion took place I do not remember it. Anyway, Lukes comments were that it was a rumor so there you have it…no 20/20. Guess maybe we caught wind of the rumor too. I do not recall the conversation so have no way of even knowing WHEN it took place.

I do know this, I never post anything regarding Johnny without first taking it to Noreen, it is a little thing I call respect for the family of victims, they are, in my opinion; victims too.

IOWAGURL Canter and David. I have reviewed the chat clear back to April. I do not see the exchange between Lulu Rbeck and myself. But as I said, it does not matter, Luke as spokesman for the Johnny Gosch Foundation has said it is a rumor.

LULU I don’t remember the conversation either, but then again, I don’t remember much. However, I do have to ask Luke… Are you sure about item number one on your original post? I am just positive I have seen the alien abduction reenacted on 20/20 AND in a movie while I enjoyed a delicious bowl of popcorn.

NOREEN GOSCH LULU, 20/20 never did any reenactment of any alien scene concerning Johnny. In 1984, 20/20 did a series of pieces on Johnny and then included Eugene Martin when he was kidnapped in August of that year. There were several more episodes shown in years following. In fact the producer was in town filming Johnny’s story the weekend Eugene Martin was kidnapped. So she jumped right in to the police department and grabbed an interview with the acting police chief at the time, so that went on the network news immediately for Eugene Martin. Good thing she was here at the time, it helped put pressure on the FBI to bring in agents from other parts of the country. FBI refused to enter Johnny’s case because “the police chief did not want their help”. It was a lame excuse.

Then in 1997, 20/20 began filming again and did so for several years building a one hour special on Johnny. However, the producer was able to get on film, some very compelling interviews…somehow Frank Snepp/ former CIA agent was pulled into it by the producer… he managed to put the project on hold indefinitely. Other TV shows within ABC have tried to buy it from 20/20 but they will not sell it. So they have kept it locked up for some time. In 1999, a show called Vanished under the ABC umbrella tried to buy it and 20/20 refused, it amounted to quite an argument one day among the Senior producers, Noreen was in New York and attended the meeting.

Perhaps that is what people were thinking of concerning some kind of 20/20 film release for the 30th anniversary. I just went on the forum to correct the rumors which were floating around in addtion to this 20/20 issue, as they were brought up again during the 30th anniversary. None of what I wrote required the snotty remarks from David S. again but he just can’t help himself and runs off at the mouth when ever he feels like it. Or should I say “runs off at the keyboard”. Oh well it gives him something to do. I don’t take him too seriously.

Hope that answered any questions about the alien rumor …

NOREEN GOSCH

IG, thank you for taking time to go through all the chat … I know that is tedius and takes time. I responded to LuLu about the alien rumor which surfaced again too. Hope it clears it all up for anyone who had a question. Amazing how things get started but oh well it is entertaining for some, I guess.

I also commented about the fact my response was to clear up the rumors, it did not require David S to . post the snotty remarks again….. when will he be banned for such behavior. He seems to run rampant on this website when ever he decides to just “go off in his rants”. No one really cares what he has to say but why is it allowed here? He does need to grow up and stop playing games. There are people on this site who really do care about what is happening to innocent children and work very hard in their communities to make a difference.

Iowa had 32 abduction attempts since the third week in June till now. Mostly in small towns with a couple in Des Moines, The very same thing is taking place in Illinois..again small towns but almost as many abduction attempts within the same time frame. We all know why it is happening and so do the police in both states.

Thanks again IG.

ME:

Do I need to repost some of the things that you have said to me Noreen? I wasn’t snotty- and I certainly didn’t say anything deragatory about your mental health or your spiritual practices. You have blatently attacked me on here over and over- and NOW you want to play victim? I, like I promised Iowagurl- won’t be rude but I am going to be forthright- and since I recieved a few emails from our conversation in here- I am thinking that you just dont want your opinion about me to be that well known.

People are beginning to listen to me- and they are starting to believe what I have been saying because it makes more sense than the official version. I never said anything about alien abductions or such- but then- that would be a technique learned from Michael Aquino- who says the same things are being said about him.

No- my concerns are much more to the point. You may not have an interest in reading my blog- but there are plenty of people who are- and they are all beginning to ask the same questions. The issue that I see it with you is that you don’t like to be questioned in any way shape or form. That won’t get you very far in life….

NOREEN GOSCH

David, it is you who have attacked me and Noreen repeatedly. I have defended myself and Noreen, I have pointed out your mental condition, as the reason you do many things which are over the top. You have talked about your Shaman who gives you the info which you then spew forth, most of the information is not accuate. You brought it up in posts and on chat… No one would have known about the shaman if you hadn’t blabbed it.

Then you cry, wail …. victim… victim when someone calls you on it. You went so far as to accuse Noreen of kidnapping her own child and you don’t call that an attack??? That alone supports the mental condition aspect.

I have no interest in reading your blogs now or ever. Doug Millar has shared his belief that you have been programmed and are still being triggered by Michael Aquino and that is the cause of your behavior. He has urged you to get help with the problem. Doug has communicated all of this to Noreen some time ago. He believes this because he has been in close association with you, watched you in action and knows you still communicate with Aquino on a regular basis. Doug Millar is worried about you and your situation with Aquino, he wants to be of help to you. Listen to him.

ME:

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I am NOT being controlled by Michael Aquino, and Doug- who just got a three year protection order on him by Aquino last month and just got arrested at the Bohemian Grove during the Cremation of Care weekend is no one to talk. You bring up the obscure stuff in order to deflect on me- NEVER ONCE TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS I HAVE SAID. Doug is just upset because my other half and all of my friends think he is trouble and I should steer clear of him, which is why I decided NOT TO LET HIM PRESENT at the human trafficking conference I am hosting. Doug is a trip- hasn’t really accomplished much- but hey- that is okay for those of us who ARE. Doug just doesn’t like the fact that I do NOT TRUST you or John DeCamp. That is his biggest problem with me- and honestly- it isn’t any of his concern. He wants us to all work together- and we ALL KNOW THAT AINT GONNA HAPPEN.

Noreen, you yourself told me that your ex husband John sold Johnny- or at least that is what you believe. That was said at the same time you gave me your exhusbands address so that I could send him a letter. I am not the only one who thinks that the story about your son is fishy to say the least.

You personally attack me over and over by mentioning my mental health (which is fine by the way)- and my shamanism- which is nothing major- but you use it like you just did with this post “Addressing rumors” when you bring up this baseless claims of alien abductions to steer away from the REAL things that I have presented about the facts of the case.

I am certainly not a victim- and I really dont care what your opinions of me are. The cool thing about it is that you cant HELP but respond to me- and I think it is funny. Always have to have the last word- which says more about your psychological well being that it does of mine.

Your main issue with me NOREEN AKA LUKE is that people are actually starting to stand up and listen to me- despite your accusations that I am crazy and a liar. (Which are some of the arguments against you if I am not mistaken). My arguments make sense- and all you can do is attack me because you have no response to the actual things I am saying.

And let me also point out that I am not the one whining about you getting thrown off of here. That would be you. So WHO is actually playing the victim here?

One last thing, just because you look ignorant when you talk about it. I do not have a “Shaman”, but instead am a practicing Shaman- who practices SHAMANISM. Shamanism is NOT where I get my info- but considering that you constantly defend Paul B.- I could see where you think you KNOW about mental health issues- being so close to the source. However- why don’t you explain EXACTLY where I am off base? Deal with what I have SAID- not with who you THINK I AM.

NOREEN GOSCH

Noreen has never accused her exhusband of anything. People can draw their own conclusion about his actions. So if you heard accusations about him, they came from someone else.

I only stated what Doug Millar told us in a conversation about you a couple months ago. You just need to take the matter to him. Aside from that I have no interest in what you do or don’t do. However, you rise up periodically and begin attacks on Noreen. That is definitely bizarre behavior. Again, it is why Doug Millar feels as he does about the connection between you and Aquino. Doug was tuly concerned about you.

Meanwhile, when you have gained a little maturity, I am sure you will realize these attacks are nothing more than stupid. You need to save your energy and apply it to help yourself or try to help someone less fortunate.

I will continue to defend myself and Noreen when there is an attack of any kind.

CANTER

I am not completely sure how an announcement to dispel rumors becomes a bashing of victims.

No disrespect David but a statement that Iowagurl made on Jul 22 “hit the nail on the head” (copied from chat)

Iowagurl: I have a friend, who is not a victim but nonetheless involved with the Franklin Scandal. This person explained to me a phenomenon that they have wittnessed among victims. The victims resent any other victim being the focus or receiving the “limelight” attention. Even though it is the darkest truth to have to have been involved in this scandal ALL the victims want to be the most important. I try to keep this in mind when making judgements on any victim behavior. Our focus as NON
Franklin Scandal victims should be unity and focus on bringing the truth to light, even if it is not the truth we thought we knew.

I completely agree with this statement.

There are thousands of people that have been victims, we all have our story and we have no right to discredit anyone else. David you have your experiences and you have zero right to discredit anyone else unless you lived and breathed with them every single hour of every day.

I am a victim, I have my story, I was “not” a so called true victim of the Franklin Scandal (and never said I was) and never would have connected the dots if Paul did not post on chat that “he was there” in reference to Faribault and then by looking at the flight records finding out they were in my area that one nightmare day (which opened up a very deep wound). 20 years of anonymous threatening phone calls based on the incident in Faribault. I would have never thought that in my childhood that paths crossed with others on this site (and wouldn’t have if they never would have posted a photo), then finding out their friend was a close friend of mine and taking day trips to Des Moines and Omaha. (and not saying they were part of Franklin but they were part of other things)

I have my nightmares, we all have our experiences and honestly I am getting tired of the go around bashing each other and trying to discredit others. (and I have been bashed plenty). I should just not return to the forum but I guess curiousity gets the best of me and looking for that last piece of the puzzle on “my story”.

ME:

lol- whatever Noreen. Again- you attack me personally and never with what I have said. Besides- if you ARE Luke and NOT Noreen- how would you know for sure what she did or not tell me? I mean- she was kind enough to give me her ex husbands address so again she MUST have had some idea what I was like- or does she just give strangers her ex husbands address at will? If so- he should probably be warned of this activity.

Canter- I somewhat agree with Iowagurl on what she posted- but the facts remain- the only RECOGNIZED people are the very ones who I personally believe are INVOLVED much more so than what they have said- which is what I have said over and over. The fact that I do not trust Noreen and feel like I have been lied to over and over throughout the years that we have known each other, (for example- I REALLY DO BELIEVE LUKE IS ACTUALLY NOREEN- BUT SHE IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO CLAIM HER OWN THOUGHTS AND THEREFORE USES ALIASES TO GET HER POINTS ACROSS), shouldn’t come as a surprise- and anyone who knows me will say that I have been pretty consistent in my dislike and mistrust for the woman.

I think it is interesting that no one is responsible for anything that they do in here. Noreen didnt tell me her ex sold Johnny- Iowagurl and rbeck say they never spoke about a 20/20 show- everyone is wrong about what they are saying and doing except for the people who run this site. That is kinda frustrating- but more telling than not.

Noreen- I told you- I am going to do my best to expose you as a fraud- and DeCamp as well. No one who meets me (besides you- but then you give me your ex’s personal info so even that is questionable) thinks I am crazy- which is why I am able to host a human trafficking seminar myself. And those who do meet me find what I have to say very informative and quite valuable. You are part of the spin on Omaha and one of the reasons why it has remained secret for thirty years now.

Canter- to address what you said- ANYONE who puts themselves out in the public as Noreen and DeCamp have done should expect questions to their story. I have lived and breathed Omaha’s crap all my life- and I know, from personal experience, that there is a lot of disinfo being distributed. Mainly from the Gosch camp- which is why I am going after them the way that I am. But of course those in here are going to focus on me rather than what I am saying- although NONE OF YOU, other than Noreen- have met up with me so none of you really know what you are talking about and are simply going on opinions of others. I HARDLY think that everyone who questions Noreen is out of their minds- in fact- I have met plenty of people who don’t believe the official story who are incredibly bright and well put together.

However Noreen- again- instead of throwing everything but the kitchen sink at me- why don’t you just deal with what I am saying and explain to people WHY i am wrong about the things I am saying instead of putting a personal spin on it and trying to convince people that I am just crazy and immature. While your at it- why don’t you explain why you have to go under the psyudomeum Luke rather than just letting people know that it is you personally attacking people?

STAY TUNED FOR MORE- IT ALWAYS PROVES TO BE VERY INTERESTING

I realize this article is going to get a lot of feedback from the group of survivor advocates who are under the spell of attorney John DeCamp and the mother of an abducted child, Noreen Gosch- as in some arenas these two are viewed as American heros- but never being interested in “group think”, I must, judging from my own experiences, shed some light onto these two and try to explain my convictions of how the media is promoting these two in order to once again keep a lid on events concerning a failed savings and loan here in Omaha called Franklin Credit. Just to make it clear right off the bat- since I am used to Noreen aka Luke on Franklinfiles.net personally attacking me (rather than attending to my arguments), I want to explain that I neither have gotten this info from my spiritual practice nor am I ranting because of some medication unbalance- but rather- I want to discuss this logically so that people can understand why I have the concerns that I do.

First, it is my contention that the media has focused on the Johnny Gosch case because it has been so effective in the past with dismissing Franklin by the simple weirdness of the story. None of it follows a logical path. Somehow an abduction that occurred in another state came to become the figurehead of the case surrounding the Franklin Credit Union, which by the details (provided by John DeCamp and Paul Bonnaci) would make sense- but since the whole case of Johnny Gosch makes NO sense- proves that it is part of the elaborate cover up that has been the history of the situation here in Omaha, Nebraska. Let me explain.

Okay- so we have an abducted boy in West Des Moines, Iowa who was never investigated to be kidnapped but rather was viewed as a runaway by the police. Then John DeCamp- a lawyer from Lincoln Nebraska and a kid with serious psychological problems named Paul Bonnaci (poster child for the False Memory Foundation as the first victim of Multiple Personality Disorder- whose case was used to dismiss all the forthcoming claims of child abuse throughout the nation) come forward and claim Bonnaci was involved with the boys abduction and the whole circus starts. The biggest problem that I have with these two is that everyone who was TRYING to come forward ended up dead or in jail, yet these two- both who have lived in the area ALL THEIR LIVES, couldn’t tell you how things were working in Omaha, yet Bonnaci could give elaborate details about being in the Whitehouse, houses in Washington D.C., and tell about events that happened in the Bohemian Grove in CA. DeCamp- who has serious PR problems in Nebraska himself with concerns to his own personal activities and his career in general, was INSTRUMENTAL with the investigations that came with Franklin, and yet- not until I have come forward has anyone, until now, understood EXACTLY how things were going on here in Omaha. How this is possible is a question, unless there are ulterior motives concerning the information that was released to the public.

Now back to Noreen Gosch and the case of her abducted son. According to her book “Why Johnny Can’t Come Home” and her numerous media appearances, she has told the world that her son came back and visited her at 27 years old. A man that she “KNOWS” was her son- complete with stories of CIA involvement and government cover-ups, which seems strange enough all in of itself, but is further complicated when Noreen then goes forward and involves herself with the case of Jeff Gannon- a prostitute who was a “media correspondent” for the first Bush president despite the fact that no one knows how he got such a prestigious job with the credentials and security clearance that he did. Gannon supposedly found himself in an uproar when people started questioning if this could be THE VERY JOHNNY GOSCH himself, and Noreen got involved so much as to ask the man for his DNA to see if it was true. My question has always been the one that has never seemed to have been asked- was the man who came to visit her at 27 Jeff Gannon? Simple- and yet- the chaos that ensued with the media seemed to prevent the logical question from being asked.

It is my contention that John DeCamp and Noreen Gosch have been working to keep the true facts of Franklin Credit from ever becoming public by, with the medias help, filling the airwaves with such outlandish tales that most simply dismiss the events of Franklin as nothing more than a big hoax. I say that, not only because that has been the history of the situation for thirty years now, but because of my own personal involvement with Noreen, and the obvious lack of involvement by DeCamp- who has done his best to avoid me, despite the fact that I would love to go in public and debate these two concerning their stories and lack of credibility that they have, at least in Omaha.

I figure it is safe to say that Noreen Gosch and I despise each other, and for good reason. Noreen dislikes me because I question her story in such a way that it makes her incredibly uncomfortable- which is why she generally attacks me personally rather than deal with the things that I am saying. I do not see how Bonnaci- who has lived in Omaha all of his life, and who has gone public saying that he was involved in Franklin, has been unable to provide any real details in Omaha (his hometown) and yet has provided a plethora of details to other places to the media, esp. in the British documentary on the situation, Conspiracy of Silence. How is it that he seems to have amnesia concerning town events in a town that he STILL LIVES IN EVEN NOW, and yet can give crystal clear details of other places? This was what caused the dissention between Noreen and I in the first place.

Up to that point- we had been buddy buddy- so much so that she sent me emails claiming how she was my friend (which I still have). She was even so nice as to provide me her ex-husbands personal mailing address so that I could write him a letter. My email exchange between ex-Omaha chief of police Robert Wadman was being forwarded to Noreen realtime while I was having the exchange- and I have a series of emails of Noreen expressing her disbelief that Wadman would have such an exchange, considering the depth of what was being discussed. (It was all about the efficient disposal system they had a Forest Lawn Cemetery as the crematorium was being used to get rid of the victims that were being abducted and murdered – which you can read in my book Rabbit Hole- A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story). However, when I reached a point where I began to realize that the “official” story didn’t logically make sense- and was so out there that it seemed to reek of being part of the cover-up itself, was when things went sour.

I bring this up now because it has come to my attention that the media is starting another campaign with Noreen in mind- like the upcoming show that 20/20 has planned. The funny thing is that the Gosch camp is well aware that I overnighted my book to the producers of 20/20 right after finding out- and for a company interested in the truth- still there has been no contact. In the 80s and 90s- the media did an excellent job of dismissing the whole problem of child trafficking and abductions by associating it solely with Satanic Ritual Abuse and making a joke about it. The whole argument that our history in America with “satanic panic” was some carefully crafted hoax fueled by the media doesn’t make sense- when you look at what was back on television at the time. Col. Michael Aquino (founder of the satanic sect Temple of Set), parading around on stage with his merlin the magician type outfits, while Geraldo was making a fool of himself airing a satanic family that didn’t show up. My point is the that media didn’t fuel the problem so much as do its best to dismiss the problem in people’s minds by being so outrageous and out there that the public simply just thought it was a joke.

However, things have changed and the internet has become a Godsend to the truth. There is a REAL side to this story- one that makes sense- that the media doesn’t want to become public- and that is the one that I have written in Rabbit Hole- A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story. It is interesting that the “pioneers” of this movement to save children- like John DeCamp and Noreen Gosch, fight against that truth, doing their best to suppress the truth about Omaha- even now, by doing their best to diss me and keep anyone from looking at what I have to say. Is it frustrating? Damn straight- but it is also telling, and helps with my argument that they are once again doing their best to prevent the truth about Omaha events from really coming out. Along with the media’s help- who is going out of their way to once again promote the “Franklin” camp outlandish stories in hopes to dismiss the serious allegations that I have made and am going to continue to make- because it is the truth, and that truth NEEDS to come out.

I read where you gave millions to children’s charities as of late.

I just wanted to tell you that the same principles of this game refer to you as well- and that is Come Clean or Be Claimed.

No one will believe that you didn’t know what was going on in Omaha at a time when you and your fellow members became inordinately rich as the rest of the country floundered.

God could care less about your money- and there is only ONE good deed you can do to save yourself.

I just wanted to make that clear.

(Sent out to my media list- this is also being cc’d, like everything else- to Mayor Jim Suttle’s office- as well as Judge Marlon Polk’s office.)

Yesterday I was despairing and angry and so I left this message on Facebook:

“Lets be honest- other than a tabloid sense of curiosity- most could care less about the world around them. Child trafficking means NOTHING until it happens to a person- and then they want to cry and bitch never considering that they could have done something to prevent it. America is full of bitches- we bitch about the presidency and the world around us while we sit around and watch tv and wish for the next fun thing to happen to us. Generally speaking- NO ONE REALLY CARES WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT. Not enough to get off their butts and do anything. Question is- why should I? Don’t have an answer to it- but since I don’t have kids and NEVER will have kids- why the hell should I care so much? Probably shouldn’t. Screw the world- let it burn and everyone in it.”

This morning, however, I decided that this was being too much of a victim in what I am dealing with, and so- instead of just expressing my anger- I have decided to explain why I was so embittered yesterday.
To understand what I am going through, one needs to understand the situation and the fact that I have come up against nothing but a systematic cover up when it comes to having my father and his family investigated for child trafficking. The Nebraska State Patrol has been HEAVILY involved with this- with at least two people that I know of- Bob Frank, cold case detective in Lincoln, and Det. John Pankonin, cold case detective in Omaha- assigned to the Ricky Chadek case.

After reporting what I did to Bob Frank about my father and step mother- he, in turn, helped my stepmother Joanne C. Shurter file two police reports against me- neither of which I knew about until she took me to court to get a protection order from me over the three times in six years we have accidentally run into each other. That order was granted by Judge Marlon Polk- of course, I had ALREADY been working with Det. John Pankonin at the time- who didn’t bother to show up at the hearing. Since granting my stepmother the protection order and involving himself In my life, I decided that Judge Marlon Polk wanted to be involved- and since then- I have made it my business to fax his office detail after detail of my father’s family’s involvement in a child, drug, and gun trafficking business. Of course- NOTHING had been done up till now- and so Judge Marlon Polk has proven that he will only get involved to keep things quiet- rather than actually look into anything.

Det. John Pankonin is a whole different matter. Contacting me after I made a HUGE issue about all of this with the Omaha police, (since my stepmother Joanne C. Shurter was once again working with them trying to cause problems for me), Mayor Suttle’s office, and with the office of Judge Marlon Polk on my website- one of the first things Det. Pankonin asked me to do was publish something as to how the police were actually working with me instead of against me- like I had been saying. This should have been a red flag, but I complied nonetheless, because what else was I going to do?

Meeting me out west at the Nebraska State Patrol office after speaking on the phone, we discussed a few particulars of my case against my parents and I gave him one of the first copies of my book Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story. Explaining my frustration with the police and the fact that Bob Frank was filing police reports on me that no one was bothering to inform me about when all I wanted was for my family to be investigated, Pankonin did his best to placate me during our hour long meeting.

That was when he wasn’t leaving the room and having me sit there by myself. He spent most of his time talking to me staring at his computer screen- which he never touched, and each time he made some inane excuse to leave the room, the second being a good fifteen minutes, I got this weird impression that he wanted me to get up from where I was sitting and LOOK at his computer- which I didn’t do. For two reasons- first, it would irritate me to have someone look at my computer screen, and secondly- it is simply BAD MANNERS. Not that I haven’t since been interested in what he was so put out for me to see, but my point is- it has been nothing but a game with these people.

The second time and last time I ever met with Det. John Pankonin was when he extracted my DNA from me. DNA had been left on the body of Ricky Chadek- and I was bound and determined to have mine tested against it to see if my father or brother could have been involved in the abduction and murder of the little boy. What I said to Det. Pankonin was enough to have him ask me to sign a paper offering my DNA, and since he said he was willing to perform such an expensive test to check, I had to assume that he took seriously the things that I said about my family.

I was later proven incorrect on that one. Calling me a few months later- he told me that the test results had come back negative and asked me to keep it confidential- which I have until now. Questioning my Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and quizzing me on what medications I am on- since he asked me to keep the results of my DNA quiet- he has gone out of his way to try and prove arguments that my stepmother has against me, indicating that ONCE AGAIN the Nebraska State Patrol is working with my stepmother and not with me. Arguments like “I am so full of hate that it makes me crazy” and trying to insinuate on the phone that I am unstable- although I am in therapy with professionals and have been speaking out as a speaker at several national conferences about child trafficking and such and have not given anyone EXCEPT my stepmother and her police friends the impression that I am “off my rocker”. In fact- quite the opposite, however- it was telling which side Det. Pankonin’s bread is being buttered in this situation.

So what does one do in this kind of situation? I wish I knew- which is why I was so angry yesterday at God and the world. God help those parents who lost those two girls in Iowa who were cousins- because now that the Omaha FBI, (who was and is in charge of the situation),has botched things up so bad- chances are they will NEVER have any answers to what happened to those two girls. The local officials- such as Judge Marlon Polk, and Mayor Suttle, and Det. John Pankonin and his buddies at the Nebraska State Patrol DO NOT WANT TO INVESTIGATE any claims such as this. A cold case department that hasn’t solved a case in DECADES, if ever, is not much of a department- and anyone in the real world would have been fired long before. Not asking ONE question, by his own admission, Det. Pankonin never bothered to go check with the oriental Methodist Hospice nurse named Janey who took care of my father in his last days and LISTENED to what he was saying. Never going out and looking into any of my concerns- Det. Pankonin has simply just asked me to contact him should I find out anything about the Ricky Chadek case- becoming indignant when I informed him that I was NOT in this to make friends and instead was demanding that this all be investigated. Of course- I could have just pissed into the wind- I would have made more of an impact than I ever have with Pankonin or the Nebraska State Patrol.

However, if my past has taught me anything- it is that I am not a victim, and although it doesn’t make me popular, becoming a bulldozer gets results, and that is what I am primarily concerned with right now. So for the time being, on DavidShurter.com- I am going to take a break from dealing with extraneous issues and get back to the nitty gritty on what is going on in Omaha NE concerning child trafficking- and our local officials flat out refusal to effectively research any of the previous claims that have been made by me- and MANY OTHERS. It is an election year- and if my training taught me anything as a child- it was to take advantage of every possibility in order to achieve my goal- and exposure of the truth just might help with that. No more am I angry with God- in fact- I am not angry at all. What you all are going to see is my DETERMINATION. One man can change the world- and BY GOD I am going to do what I can to prove that to the people around me.

One last thing- let me remind you Det. Pankonin, Judge Marlon Polk- and Mayor Suttle- that you all are PUBLIC SERVANTS- by your choice. That means you SERVE THE PUBLIC, of which I am one of. So let us see if I can put a fire under all of our asses and turn up the heat enough to either get you to DO SOMETHING, or boil you alive. Again- it will be your choice. I’ll make sure that I keep you all abreast as the upcoming developments- the least of which is that I am hosting a conference on child trafficking that has an INCREDIBLE roster in October, so if you are going to make me out to be crazy- I suggest you hurry up because in less than two months I am about to inform Omaha professionals exactly what has been fought against for so long. I have a feeling after they are exposed to the truth- that it is going to be a bit harder to nay say what I am saying- and RIGHT BEFORE AN ELECTION YEAR. You gotta love it!!

The basic concept of the MKUltra project, in my personal experience, was all about energy work. Believing that “they” could open up a child through extreme trauma, forcing them to use the part of our brains that we don’t generally use- drugs, electroshock therapy, and torture was a part of that process. I have said before that any abused child becomes hyper vigilant to their surroundings, and our government wanted to know what would happen if they took this too extreme, and more importantly, if the effects were something that they could control.

My training involved a great deal of mind work- going within and finding the answers that were in the air. I was taught to really watch a person when they speak- to look them in the eyes- for it is within that process that you can tell what a person is really thinking, not just by what they say but more importantly- by what they aren’t saying. It isn’t magic, it is just that everyone has subtle nuances to their appearance, and I was taught early on to recognize and manipulate people through this process. Mind reading happens to all of us, we all can sense what others are thinking if we really open ourselves to the process, but mind bending takes some work.

Mind bending is a complicated process of control, where by you engage in conversation in such a way that you convince your opponent of your objective in such a way that they believe that the idea was theirs in the first place. Again- it is isn’t magic, it is an actual scientifically proven way of engaging people, and some people do it instinctively- but our government had great interest in perfecting this. Training me to “read” people, sizing them up instinctively, it encouraged me to manipulate them to reach any objective that I had in mind. Teaching me the techniques and nuances of thinking like a predator, had my father not unintentionally destroyed my programming at ten there is no telling what would I would have ended up like.

Remote viewing, in my opinion, is very shamanic in nature- which is probably why I am so talented at it. I realize that astral projection (which is another word for it), seems incredibly far-fetched and new age, but it is the whole reason why our government has a covert psych ops department- and it has been Lt. Col. Michael Aquino’s whole educational and professional background to explore those aspects of the mind that we do not often utilize at this time. It is not all machines and drugs and experiments, it is psychological most of all, and it is in understanding the psych and controlling those emotions connected with it that make an effective soldier. It is also undeniable that a great deal of money and time has been spent exploring these aspects of the mind, and that careers- such as those of Mr. Aquino, have been built on such practices.

Remote viewing is simply going in the mind to places and sensing the energy surrounding such events. In the mind, I was taught I could go backwards and forwards in time, hindered by neither time nor geography- in order to perceive what was going on at those particular times. Emotions put forth energy, and Michael taught me to be able to travel forth within my own mind to sense the particulars of situations. Psychic ability was not only believed by those who trained me- but it was expected. However, there was much more to my training than just mind reading a particular event.

Michael Aquino, founder of Temple of Set, well known Satanist and high up government official, wanted to know if the rituals that he and his group were performing could be done mentally- by simple thought, and prove to be as effective. The Law of Cause and Effect dictate that the rituals that they enacted and the energy that they generated has effects, and though most people think that prayer and positive thinking are the only way ritualistic thinking works, I assure you that the rituals in black magic have the same effect- and work just as well. However, Aquino and his friends wanted to know if they could control mind over matter.

In my experience, it is not so much controlling energy as it is working with it in order to influence a desired outcome. We all have energy forces around us and we all have auras and such- otherwise people couldn’t take pictures of it. We all have a life force that generates energy that goes out and influences the world around us. Although most of the time this is a simple psychological phenomenon, as we manifest the world in which we live through our thoughts and actions, the group that trained me wanted to see how far a person would be able to take this if put through enough that they were forced to start using the dormant part of brains. Breaking the mind down, trying to understand it, and then building it back up in such a way that could be controlled by individual handlers was the goal from what I have garnered, and it has been incredibly effective in my personal experience.

The Satanic aspect of my background is pretty undeniable when you consider that my main handler was Michael Aquino himself, still I have often discredited that part of my history as nothing more than people playing mind games in order to prevent survivor’s to know just what was real and what wasn’t. However, as I have gotten older, I realized that the rituals that were performed were incredibly specific, and therefore the energy that they created was also quite specific. For example- I have spoken before how the group “bound” themselves to me through many child sacrifices and blood rituals. Although it was not me specifically they were worshiping but rather the entity they believed lived in my father, which they were convinced would inhabit me in my future, but at the time it was nonetheless me that they bound themselves too. Now I don’t want to get into a long conversation right now about possession, but I have experienced it to be far more real than I had ever given it credit for- although I must admit that it is usually the hardest thing for people to wrap their heads around, showing the truth that the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was creating the illusion that the fallen don’t exist. Despite all that and whatever you might personally believe, the fact remains that there are those who adhere to practices most would rather deny, and, as a group- they performed rituals that bound their life forces over to me.

Aquino wanted to know if mind could influence matter. Yes. He wanted to know if a person could get into another’s head and, for example- help encourage them not to sleep. Yes. He wanted to know if individual choice could be eradicated and controlled. The answer to that is no. It also never occurred to him that those he taught to do such things would become strong, join together, and rise against them in such a way that they could not help but be overcome. This is why they are running for the shadows now- when their history back in the late 80’s and early 90’s was to parade it all around like it was some joke. It worked stupendously at the time- however, we are in a different time- and the internet has changed everything. (Of course- the whole argument that it was the media was what encouraged our history with “satanic panic” doesn’t really make sense considering that everything that was presented about it was done in such a way that dismissed the claims as ludicrous- like Geraldo and his fiasco. Doing more to discourage the claims rather than promote it- let me also remind you that it happened at a time BEFORE the internet- so if it wasn’t the media that caused all of the abuse allegations- then the question remains WHAT DID?).

There are sensible reasons for what happened, although the ideology is out in left field, but when all other avenues have been explored- it is the only answer that makes sense. The fact is- our government used innocent civilians in a campaign of torture of originated right out of Nazi concentration camps in order to explore and design to control the workings of their subject’s minds. This was done within a campaign of silence and disinformation in which the media was used to quiet the claims, while laws were enacted to prevent such claims from ever being investigated, not to mention treated. There is AMPLE evidence to show the truth in all of this- and it is within the history of events that the truth will finally be realized.

People like Aquino- well; they will probably stay quiet forever- which will end up being their downfall. Teaching me how to work with the darkness, it should come as no surprise that I would use it against them now that I have begun to master it. Like many of us have. Light dispels dark, education dispels ignorance, and energy always returns to its owner. As such, I will say it again Michael- Come Clean or Be Claimed.