A Response to Doug Mesner/Satanist Luciean Greaves Article “David Shurter’s Epic Fail”

A Response to Doug Mesner/Luciean Greaves Article “David Shurter’s Epic Fail”

Although my initial reaction to this piece was to laugh it off as a failed attempt to attack me, I have come to the conclusion that perhaps I should answer some of the accusations and give my side of the situation. The fact that I have to respond to someone who has done his best to infiltrate the survivor community and attack it at will- while trying to build membership to his “Satanic Temple”, I have found this boy-man to be full of hatred and contradictions. Two things are for certain though- he loves media attention and he utterly hates me and my crusade.

First off- the article that he wrote about me is a biased piece of BS. Speaking about things he has no clue about- it was nothing more than an attack in order to try and sway people to think that I am full of it. The only thing that was real was the first quote, which I wrote during an incredibly difficult divorce from my partner of 20 years. Doing his best to discredit and defame me- the rest of the article is just bogus opinions, and much of the information I assume came from my father’s wife and her daughter and my oldest sister’s children, whom I haven’t spoken too in years and a group that has never been close to me. In fact I haven’t seen Christina, my stepmother’s daughter- in 20 years. The last time was at a gym- where she stood in front of me and I didn’t even recognize her, except for the time she appeared in court. This group of people have followed me and basically made my life such a hell that I had to leave the midwest to escape them from stalking my every move.

You can tell by the language of the piece that Doug has nothing but complete disdain for me, if not pure hatred. I stand by my work in Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story- a book he admits he has never read, and my work on my blog- DavidShurter.com. This boy-man has a tendency to attack ALL survivors, and I am just one in the fold of his crusade. Felicity Lee is another of his victims, as he has done any and every underhanded thing to attack us- complete with calling Felicity’s utility companies and having them shut off her services. Never taking responsibility for his actions- he is further compelled by the Huffington Post- who seem to relish in publishing every nasty thing the boy-man does, including tea bagging a grave stone.

My father and his family kidnapped, raped, tortured and killed many children. He did not eat them. This suggestion is so far off base that it makes one’s head spin. From what I have discovered in my experiences with other survivors- being raised to believe that I was the anti-christ was not just my experience as several other survivors had the same type of training- which makes me think that it was just another trick during the MKUltra experience. (There IS NO MONARCH PROJECT- which goes to show how uneducated Mesner/Lucian Greaves is about the whole well known government project). However- he wasn’t involved with my family- never knew my father- and has never met me. But apparently he has convinced himself that he knows everything there is to know about me and what I am doing- although he never once has read my book. (Hasn’t stopped his zealot followers from leaving nasty one star reviews on it however). Anything he can do to attack he does- and this article is just yet another example of the depths the boy-man will sink too.

Next – I have no idea where he comes off with me ranting about lunar cycles and Satanism- and in fact since he is head of a satanic cult he would know more about them than I. I actually have no idea what this is about- and is yet another one of his lies that he attributes to me. I am not an expert on ANY OF THIS- but rather am just a guy who has tried to get my past- and my family, investigated. I have detailed many of findings and experiences for people both in my book and on my blog- and I challenge him to show where I spoke about any of this in either one, because I never have. However- as has been his MO, he lies, then attributes those lies to other people in hopes that it will hold and stand water. I personally could not care less. He claims that I am ranting incoherently- but the only thing coherent with this article is that he has unbridled hatred for me and all survivors.

As far as Noreen Gosch and Franklin Files, I have just published an article entitled “Child Trafficking and Mind Control in the Heartland- My Cost of Child Advocacy” in the winter issue of Paranoia magazine- which can also be found in the top pages on my blog- where I detail my whole experience with these people. I did not “weasel” my way into anything- and in fact it was they who came to me- and not the other way around. My video “A Walking Tour through Pedophile Omaha” was a video in which I detail the establishments that were involved with the Omaha hoop la in the 80′s- and the fact that Doug shows an undying ignorance to what happened there is just another example of how far off this article is.

As far as the SMART conference, I attended the conference one year and spoke at it the following two years, and it wasn’t until Brick and I had severe issues with the North American Truth and Reconciliation Coalition that I told Neil to go “screw himself”. I do not like nor do I trust Brick- and I have no interest in attending his conferences due to the fact that they are simply survivors telling their horror stories of their past. The decision to ask me not to attend the fourth year had more to do with Brick giving support to Nick Bryant- (a man that Mesner/Greaves doesn’t even mention in the article), who stands in direct opposition to me in detailing what REALLY happened in Omaha. Brick, even now, is working against me and the conference that I am involved with in Seattle- as he is afraid that money might not flow into his pockets as it has so voraciously in the past. But that is beside the point. My issues with Brick are just that- MY ISSUES. And the fact that Brick supposedly went after the boy-man Mesner/Greaves with a cease and desist claim seems to have skipped his mind while writing his hate piece.

With regards to Kara and Free Range Humans, I threw her out of my house after I discovered that, posing as my friend- she was secretly recording everything that was going on in my house. This was DETAILED on my blog- and yet Mesner/Greaves failed to mention this and, like the rest of the article- made it seem like it is something that it is not. Again- my issues with Kara are MY ISSUES, and never have I shared anything with Mesner/Greaves- so the fact that he seems like he is in the know is ridiculous.

As far as my issues with homosexuality- I have none with it itself- however I do have severe issues with the promiscuous lifestyle that it promotes. I did accuse Mesner/Greaves of being a homosexual- as his website detailed many pictures of him naked with his friend Shane- and according to Huffington Post- he threw a homosexual satanic “spell” on the Westboro ministers loved one- making her “gay in the afterlife”. This boy-man does anything for attention- and personally- I don’t care WHO HE HAS SEX WITH- just as long as he keeps his disgusting ways to himself.

Now calling the False Memory Foundation followers the “pedophile protection squad”, it is their compulsion to attack survivors and extoll the virtues and innocence of the accused- and so I am just calling it like I see it. I found it amusing that his proof that Mark Anderson and Walt Carleson were guilty was by using articles from the Omaha World Herald, when most in Omaha knows that Harold Anderson- the owner of the newpaper- was heavily involved with the criminal activity at the time. He is using a pedophile’s propaganda to try and discredit me- and it just is another example to why I call him the head of the pedophile protection squad. Again- he knows NOTHING about Omaha, my childhood, nor what happened back then- and yet his hate rant suggests that he knows all there is to know about it. Perhaps he should stick to exposing himself in public for the national media.

I talk about Mark and Walt because, in my estimation- they were set up. Were they pedophiles? I don’t know. But I do know that the three boys in question were hustlers who sold themselves on the streets- and the fact that their families tried to extort money out of Mark and Walt before going to court shows me that this group of people had severe issues- and were not the victims that they were portrayed as in the Omaha World Herald. But then- I was there and knew the people involved- whereas the boy-man Mesner/Greaves just has uneducated opinions about the whole thing.

Mesner distorts the facts- ALWAYS. He has a history of being deceptive, aggressive, and hateful towards survivors and this article is just another example of that. I will not address his claims any more than I have too- but I felt that I needed to respond to these accusations since the Huffington Post was so willing to allow this article to be published in their comment section of one of their online articles. I do not like this boy-man, I do not like satanism, and I don’t like the false memory foundation pedophile protection squad. They have done their best to attack me and others- who are mentioned in the article- unabashedly, and I think that their hate and despicable behavior stands for itself. Mesner/Greaves is capable of anything and everything- and this article- which he both wrote and THEN commented on- is yet another example of how far off base this boy-man is from reality. All in all- it is sad, and I almost feel sorry for the guy. Almost. Not quite- but almost.


Another Post By Doug Mesner- and Yet Another Retort

Man I get tired of this man-boy’s lies. However- this is all from someone who is the False Memory Foundation’s spokesperson- which includes people like Debbie Nathan- who says that our nation is too “hysterical” when it comes to sex with minors, and Elizabeth Loftus- who was run out of Seattle after she lost a legal battle there. Even now- parents who came forward about abuse are labeled by Allen Frances in his recent Huffington Post article as “mentally unbalanced parents harboring weird imaginings or an ax to grind, or both”. Dismissing a myriad of abuse claims against children- Mesner presents himself as a satanic child crusader who, in my opinion, is just angry because I have fought back against his attacks against survivors. After reading his blog and all the ugly posts about EVERY ONE WHO COMES FORWARD FOR SURVIVORS, I realized that I am actually in good company as one of those he likes to attack (like it is my fault that he has a RECENT HISTORY of flaunting himself in front of national media- pulling his genitals out in front of the cameras).

I never once said in my last blog entry that I didn’t participate in cannabalism. Anyone who reads my book- which Mesner actually lied about NOT reading since he has been able to pick and chose what he quotes from it, can see that I have indeed participated in such activity. However- in his recent article about me- it was suggested that my father was only abducting children to eat them. “They ate them all”, is I believe what he said- once again going over the deep end and trying to radically suggest that my father abducting children just to eat them. Cannibalism was practiced in the CULT- AFTER they were sacrificed. Obviously my father didn’t abduct children to eat- but rather to rape and probably kill. Mesner however likes to insinuate ridiculous theories and then attributes them to others. His blog is RIPE with this type of psych op behavior- so that he can incriminate others by his way of thinking.

The boys in question that Mark Anderson was supposed to have molested WERE NOT 11 and 12 years old. They were well into their teens- and no one was forcing them into prostitution, as they were willing participants who acted on their own volition. If Mesner had proof that these boys were children- he would have posted the damning info in his blog- but since it is not there- one only has to conclude that he is lying. Mesner- not being there- has no clue as to what happened and who was involved- and yet will go on and on like he is somehow in the know about it all. You can see plainly by his other blog entries dealing with survivors and their advocates that this is not uncommon- and he makes a habit out of thinking that he knows more than everyone else.

If he is so concerned about pornography- he should watch what he does in the public media and the pictures that he posts on his Satanic Temple website- which have now, thankfully- been removed. Most people were more concerned about the snuff films that were being filmed in the basement of the Hollywood Bar- but then- Mesner doesn’t bring any of this up. Walt- NOT MARK- was deemed the “Pied Piper of Pornography” even though he lived in the basement of his aged parents over by Crossroads mall, and the fact that he alone was charged and not his parents- even though he lived in their house- shows how biased this court process was. Of course- Alecia Owen- the child who was pregnant with then Omaha police chief Robert Wadman’s baby goes completely unnoticed by Mesner- who has come forward to me telling me that they themselves were liars. Mesner has a habit of picking and choosing what he wants to present- and who he advocates for.

I said in my last article that I don’t know if Mark and Walt were guilty or not of having sex with minors- only that they were used as scapegoats to get attention off the group of elite who WERE INDEED GUILTY- such as Larry King, Alan Baer, Harold Anderson, etc. Mesner will distort the facts any way he can in order to present himself as something other than he is- that being an exhibitionist who will do anything he can to garner media attention.

There is something seriously wrong with Doug Mesner/Lucian Greaves mentally- and I don’t find him to be a stable individual at all. He certainly is NOT an advocate for victims. You don’t have to take my word for it- as, even though Mesner and his group of Pedophile Protectors have extolled the opinion that anyone who has come forward talking about events in Omaha are all mental- you only have to read Nick Bryant’s book “The Franklin Scandal” or watch the British documentary “A Conspiracy of Silence” to see that major crimes took place here in Omaha- and that they were heavily guarded and covered up in order to keep people from going to jail. Mesner/Greaves is just another part of this process- as he will lie at will and exaggerate anything about anyone he can in order to keep survivors from being heard.

I am not going to play this volley of insults and innuendos that Mesner wants to participate in. He is not of sound mind (plainly shown by his recent actions with the media), and he has NO INTEREST in the truth- as he distorts whatever he can to get his childish point across. The only thing I CAN say about his recent rant is that he didn’t swear throughout it this time, showing that even the most dense of the population can learn about social morays.

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