http://www.thecommonsenseshow.com/2013/01/26/the-suiciding-of-pedophile-investigators/

http://youtu.be/m0pmu8BLJi0

I was asked yesterday by Critthink on Amazon comments regarding 22 Faces as to why I have not had any local officials investigate my claims and suggested that it was because there was no conspiracy to hide pedophiles in such a way. Obviously I disagree and believe that my situation definitely needs some checking into- and I just try to ask the question as to why this hasn’t been done thus far…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/26/rick-scott-satanists_n_2559018.html

Of course- this guy, who sets himself out to be crusader for Pedophiles as a Pedophile Protector, fights all claims of satanic ritual abuse while at the same time promoting satanism with his rock band (which can’t be that good since no one has heard of Doug or his band until recently).

And because this group likes to have my comments removed from Amazon- here is some of my conversation with Critthink- who is probably Dougy himself.

Yeah- that you guys are doing your best to put fake SRA claims out in the public again- just like last time- and hope that you can discredit it in people’s minds enough so that they never actually consider the valid claims of people who are actual victims. It is a spin campaign- and one that is going to have a hard time working because people are becoming aware of it this time. You see- you laugh at me- and berate me- but you weren’t trained like I was- and I can figure out your games cause you guys never change the paradigm of what you do.

Again- what you are is an acting attacking Woo Woo practicing group of FMS pedophile protectors- and you think that your games are so bright- and people are just so stupid- that they can’t figure it out. And you try to do it in such a way that you believe you can never be held accountable. However- that only stays true for awhile.

Douglas Mesner and the Lucien Greaves Satanic Temple Connection

Background

At the beginning of the year, a group called “The Satanic Temple” Facebook page was created apparently to promote a movie. A few weeks later, this group convinced much of the US media, including TV networks, they would be supporting Florida Governor Rick Scott and his school prayer bill at a rally on January 25 at the Florida State Capitol.

In the article “Satanists to rally in support of Gov. Rick Scott” at wbpf. com on Jan 14, 2013, it was stated “Neil Bricke, founder of The Satanic Temple, will speak at the rally, Greaves said.” No “Neil Bricke” was reported to have spoken at or to have been at the very small rally.

The Satanic Temple’s website states: In 2012, Neil Bricke, raised in a multigenerational Satanic Temple tradition of worship, decided, with the blessings of his fellow Satanic devotees, to officially found the Satanic Temple.

SMART believes that this was meant to be an attack on Neil Brick, the founder of SMART. Neil Brick works to educate the public about the different types of child abuse and their existence.

Group Exposed

The Miami Herald Naked Politics blog in an article by Michael Van Sickler exposed the group.

“Greaves is listed as the casting director of a feature film called …wait for it…The Satanic Temple. A casting call was posted on the web site Actors Access on Jan. 7 seeking non-union actors for no pay.

“We are seeking people from all walks of life, goths, grandparents, soccer moms, etc to be the followers of a charismatic yet down to earth Satanic cult leader,” the post stated. “The shoot will be on January 25th in downtown Tallahassee. Actors will be required to wear tasteful Satanic garb.” The casting call said the movie was a mockumentary about the “nicest Satanic Cult in the world.” It was seeking actors for eight speaking roles “to play minions” and 10 featured extras….Greaves said he lives in Cambridge, Mass.” (It is believed that Mesner lives in Cambridge, Mass.)

An article at newsbusters.org by Ken Shepherd, “MSNBC’s Bashir Falls for Hoax, Reports Satanists to Rally for Rick Scott; Turns Out It’s Part of Mockumentary” states:

“But alas, the Satanic Temple is not a real, well, Satanic temple. Bashir’s first clue might have been that there’s no physical address or even mailing address listed on TheSatanicTemple.com’s website.”

Rally and Evidence

In the Miami Herald Naked Politics blog article about the rally on January 25, “Satanists* for Rick Scott hold Old Capitol rally” posted by Aaron Sharockman has two videos, one of the group’s approach to the rally of a few people and the second of the rally itself. At the end of the first video, a person appears to be Douglas Mesner. In the second video, Lucien Greaves speaks first. This appears to be Douglas Mesner also.

Doug’s picture appears at the website page “RadioFreeSatan . com Doug Mesner Show” which can be used to verify this. From the web page: “An unscrupulous journalist of the Muckracker/Gonzo School, Doug takes his tape recorder everywhere it’s unwelcome. ”

Further evidence that Doug Mesner is involved with the Satanic Temple movie project came from the press release company which originated what some in the media call a hoax. His e-mail address was directly connected to the press release “Satanic Rally in Support of Florida Governor Rick Scott January 25 to Mark First Public Appearance of Satanic Temple Founder Neil Bricke.”

Additional evidence comes from the voice of “Lucien Greaves” whose voice is very similar to a recording of Doug Mesner’s voice. A witness that has seen Doug Mesner in another setting states that the Lucien Greaves in the video at the rally is Doug Mesner.

Note: Live links have not been included in this article, because SMART does not want to promote this group or their work. Media personnel may write SMART at smartnews (at) aol (dot) com for the actual links and additional information.

Conclusion

SMART believes that Lucien Greaves is Doug Mesner.

For information about the connections between Douglas Mesner and the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF) see: http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/reply-to-fmsf-newsletter-article-about-our-organization/

Additional Information on Douglas Mesner and SMART

http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-defamation-case-update-5/

http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-defamation-case-update-4/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-defamation-case-update-3/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-defamation-case-update-2/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-defamation-case-update/
http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/douglas-misicko-alias-douglas-mesner-defamation-case/

Harassment by false memory proponents

Rebuttal to the Report from the SMART 2009 conference

These pages will give readers the full background on this subject as well as a rebuttal to Mesner’s comments about ritual abuse and our conference. These pages list many of the comments posted by Douglas Mesner as well as other aliases. These pages will show connections between Mesner and websites like process, radiofreesatan. com and the book “Might is Right.”

Douglas Mesner has continued using insults and attacks against survivors of ritual abuse and the professionals that work with them. He has harassed and followed survivors and survivor advocates around the Internet for the last several years. Aliases have been used adding additional insults and name calling against survivors.

Data on child abuse and ritual abuse: http://ritualabuse.us/ritualabuse/

Whether I can prove that these people are connected physically is totally irrelevant to me, as I have pointed out that I have noticed that there is a distinct presence on the web of people patrolling and discrediting anyone who would come forward with history of abuse, specifically satanic ritual abuse. Such cells work independently of each other- but in such orchestration that most of the time, the victims who come forward are never heard, and eventually stop talking- deflated, angry, and confused. That is the whole point of this stupid “woo hoo” game that is being played throughout the internet with anyone who comes forth with claims that THOUSANDS of people have related before them. Twisting facts, often bringing up inane facts- they do their best to anger and frustrate, and then when the victim responds, they turn it around and act like they are the victim.

This group that I spoke about previously has brought up the fact that I don’t support Sheri Stone- and I don’t. Here is why. She told herself that she was a victim when she wasn’t- and being a REAL victim, I think that doing so is just ridiculous. Now- she is STILL THE VICTIM, but this time it is her doctor that she is trying to profit off of. I can’t speak specifics on her case- because frankly I don’t care, so I haven’t researched it to any degree. However, I will say that for her to discredit any and all claims of satanic ritual abuse is suspect- and because she is not only on the internet but in national magazines- she seems to have made herself a poster child for the False Memory Foundation Pedophile Protector Squad- so she, and her story- is, like mine- published and open to attack. This side has sparred nothing to attack me- and now that I figured out their little game, are calling foul. Me- I’m not buying it- and I am sick of victims being re-victimized by this group.

The arguments over in the U.K. about Jimmy Savile seem to be twisting into once again being about a rogue therapist- but that is not the case for the hundreds of people I have met personally that all have spoke of such abuse and the government’s involvement with it, so that argument is not going to work for the lot of us. Always focusing on one case, and often creating a smoke and mirror affect in the specifics, the parroting of language might be effective- but it also irritating, and frustrating as all get out. Often arguing in circles for hours about nothing- my suggestion to is ignore and avoid this group as much as possible- as I have found them mostly to be toxic human beings who are like energy vampires who suck the time and life out of any survivor unlucky to come across their path.

We all have learned that conspiracies- large scale conspiracies- can and do exist. The Catholic Church and the Penn State Scandal are just recent examples- and those are the ones that are public- so what about the ones that the public is unaware of? There is a reason these pedophile protector’s fight so hard, and that is because they are about to not only lose all credibility but they are also going to become suspect very soon now. Doing what they can to quiet victims, I am a perfect example of what I speak. Whether or not they believe I am a victim is beside the point for me, as I definitely am, but how they treat people who make the same claims is deplorable- and it is being done in such a way that is almost systematic. For that very reason- I wonder if this whole thing- with Homeland Security and all- isn’t being done on purpose. I have learned throughout this that nothing is impossible- and considering the history of this group- I feel it is a fair and logical question. And it like they always say- “Just Cause Your Paranoid Doesn’t Mean They Aren’t Out to Get You!” LOL- (considering what the other side is trying to present me as- this is more fitting than some would suspect).

Fact:
A report of child abuse is made every ten seconds. More than five children die every day as a result of child abuse. Approximately 80% of children that die from abuse are under the age of 4. It is estimated that between 50-60% of child fatalities due to maltreatment are not recorded as such on death certificates. More than 90% of juvenile sexual abuse victims know their perpetrator in some way. Child abuse occurs at every socioeconomic level, across ethnic and cultural lines, within all religions and at all levels of education. About 30% of abused and neglected children will later abuse their own children, continuing the horrible cycle of abuse. About 80% of 21 year olds that were abused as children met criteria for at least one psychological disorder. The estimated annual cost of child abuse and neglect in the United States for 2008 is $124 billion. (childhelp.org).

Fact:
A total of 2,039 suspects were prosecuted for Federal sex offenses in 2006, representing about 2.5% of the 83,148 suspects prosecuted in Federal courts. The main sex exploitation offense referred to U.S. attorneys shifted from sex abuse (73%) in 1994 to child pornography (69%) in 2006. Convicted sex offenders sentenced to prison increased from 81% in 1996 to 96% in 2006. (Bureau of Justice statistics.gov).

http://www.leagle.com/xmlResult.aspx?xmldoc=19971912972FSupp940_11799.xml&docbase=CSLWAR2-1986-2006

http://blogs.brown.edu/recoveredmemory/

In case people don’t know, Dr. Freyd’s parents founded the False Memory Foundation, after accusations from their daughter.

(The False Memory Foundation- a group started by pedophiles to protect pedophiles from their victims claims of abuse.)

Lately I have been busy fighting with a group of people on Amazon who have done their best to trash, not only me, but anyone and everyone who would come forward claiming that they are victims of satanic ritual abuse or extreme ritual abuse at the hands of our government. Making narcissistic claims that they are “saving” society from our own superstitions and lack of reasoning when it comes to the claims of victims regarding satanic and extreme ritual abuse, they have set themselves up as both judge and jury- discrediting any and all claims even though they have openly claimed they have usually have no knowledge of the specifics, (such as myself and the things I have been trying to do). Determined that ALL such claims get discredited, they have made themselves known all over the web and esp. on Amazon- where they attack in a group, much like a pack of rabid dogs- flinging insults and demeaning comments in hopes that quieting victims and anyone who would stand against them and what they believe. So, I wanted to give those people who would be interested in looking into this, a heads up as to who is who in the land of SRA skeptics.

I have spoken about Doug Mesner, whose real name is Doug Misicko, who has made it his whole life purpose to attack and destroy anyone who would believe in SRA and extreme ritual abuse. He has several aliases, and interestingly enough- since I first introduced this man on my blog last week, he has completely disappeared from making comments on Amazon- as Doug anyway, even though before that he was instrumental in the arguments against Judy Byington and her book 22 Faces and a huge support of False Memory Foundation advocate Debbie Nathan’s Sybil Exposed. From what I have discovered- these people don’t like exposure- and often hide like roaches when anyone shines the light on them, which makes me wonder how solid their arguments and sense of integrity really are.

There are some of us who believe that another ANONYMOUS member on Amazon named Critthink may actually be Doug Misicko, as this person, (who claims she is a woman), has taken up where Doug left off. Whatever is true about Critthink, one thing is certain- he/she has openly admitted and bragged about calling establishments and trying to prevent Byington from having book signings (much like my step mother Joanne C Shurter and her cousin/lawyer Gerald Friedricksen have done too me). Stalking Byington, not only on Amazon but in real life- this group claims that it is trying to save Americans from a “witch hunt” by preventing all claims of SRA from seeing the light of day, saving society from our own superstitions and illogical misconceptions that we would have if we actually LISTENED to the survivors who have come forward. Whoever Critthink is- he/she openly admits to having caused Byington such issues, and Misicko has even bragged about helping to cancel Byington’s book promotions on his website. Much more than just advocates for accused pedophiles, they have aggressively attacked anyone who would claim they were a victim, as well as those who would stand up for survivors.

Another anonymous member who is attacking survivors goes by the name of Karmakaze, and generally jumps into the mix to support Critthink whenever Doug is in fear of losing his argument. Why all of this is important- is that I have found that this group is incredibly organized and very well-orchestrated- and ALL over the web as group trying to suppress and defame any claims of SRA or governmental abuses, and I personally think that this is not only being done intentionally, but purposely in order to keep all of these types of claims quiet and away from the public eye.

Another member of this group is ac2012, of course, when you google ac2012- what comes up is Aleister Crowley’s website (ac2012.com)- granddaddy of most satanic beliefs. Now this member has claimed that they had no idea, and that it is just a strange coincidence- but there seems to be quite a bit of mystery when it comes to this group and their activities, and it has been my experience that those who adhere to satanic principals like to flaunt it in people’s faces, although often in ways they can’t be held accountable. Here we have a member who is fighting ALL claims of satanic ritual abuse whose screen name doubles EXACTLY for Crowley’s website. Coincidence? Well, ask yourself this- if you were Satanist- or you appreciated Satanists, would you want the claims of abuse to come out and get investigated- or would you work to keep them quiet and covered up? It isn’t that hard to figure out- I mean, look at what the Catholic Church did- who are guilty of many of the same tactics of cover-up as this group on the internet is.

I have already mentioned Sheri Storm, who has been trying to sue her therapists for “implanting” memories in her head for 17 years now and whose story was written up in Scientific America (see earlier posts on my blog for more info). I have found her to be an opportunistic woman who is trying to acquire money through the court system by trying to disprove real and honest claims of SRA because she herself was guilty of deluding herself into believing she WAS a victim when she really wasn’t. Lying to herself then, and lying to herself now, her perceptions of reality can hardly be respected as she has a history of telling herself whatever sounds good and is beneficial to her at the time. Besides- what kind of ninny WANTS to be a victim of SRA, unless of course they were looking to profit by it-(which Storm is desperately trying to do)?

Orphia Nay is also a member of this group- and is the author of what I published right before this article- which I personally entitled “Some of the Tactics Being Used against Survivor’s Trying to Expose Their Abuse”. Showing the tactics that this group uses, it spells out how to misdirect and control the conversations surrounding victims and their claims of abuse- used to intimidate, frustrate, and hopefully close down any survivor who would come forward claiming abuse. These tactics have been used ferociously by the False Memory advocates on the web- and have been successful in the past of quieting those who would come forward by ways of attacks, emotionally, intellectually, and psychologically. You can Google this woman and see that she is all over the net as a “skeptic” who attacks victims, and so you don’t have to take my word for it. I have also heard tell that she might be Doug Misicko’s sister, but I haven’t been able to determine that- because, for the most part, all this group offers up is attacks and rarely do they share any real information.

Last but not least- there is a 30 year old Seattle Washington policeman by the name of Charles S. Gaston, who actually has threatened to “destroy” me. Now why a policeman would be online trying to destroy victim’s claims and credibility is a question, but my question is whether or not he is involved with Sid Seimer’s group in Olympia- since it is only an hour south of Seattle. Reactionary, aggressive, and insulting- this example of Seattle’s finest has done his best to try and “destroy” anyone who would come forward claiming abuse, and uses threats and insults to try and intimidate and control the situation.

Now again- all this matters because these people are not only on Amazon- but they are ALL OVER the web fighting any and all claims of anyone who would claim SRA abuse. It makes sense the False Memory Foundation would have followers policing the web, because if real SRA claims (such as mine), ever did hit the light of day- their credibility- (what they have left anyway), would be shot- and everything that the FMS people have done in the past 30 years trying to keep all of these claims quiet would come into question. However, since I am on the battle field trying to have my claims looked at- I thought that I would offer a playbook so that anyone who comes after me can be aware of the group that they are going to have to come up against in order to have their abuse complaints looked at. It will make no difference who you are, or what the specifics of your particular case are- if you are an SRA victim- they WILL judge you a liar and proceed to relentlessly attack you- all the while claiming they are the victims. However- knowledge is power- and the other side knows that which is why they fight so hard against anyone considering the validity of SRA claims.

EXAMPLES OF WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT…

http://www.amazon.com/review/R16N2MBFRU5DSN/ref=cm_cd_notf_message?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx3NZX95BLPN4FY&cdPage=20&cdThread=Tx3PXFCKNWODX9#Mx2YAUDD3IM3TD6

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2IXRCAQDGLFUV/ref=cm_cd_notf_message?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2UUZLPEHE2AAG&cdPage=60&cdThread=Tx1DPHYKYAKO8VH#Mx2OOQLZX97RYTW

CORRECTION TO THIS BLOG… Charley Gaston- who I said was a police officer after he told me that he was a man in blue yesterday- was obviously misleading me as I have checked and no such person is a police officer. Sorry for the mistake- but I was just going off what he told me in the conversation yesterday as he was threatening to contact the feds and tell them I am “stalking” him, although I live 2000 miles from Seattle. This just goes to prove that NOTHING that comes from this group can be trusted- as they will just talk out their butts and say whatever sounds good to them at the time. The only thing for certain about Gaston is that he hates victims- and voraciously protects abusers, and he lives in Seattle.

1) Call yourself a “skeptic”, so that easily swayed people will, in one fell swoop, think you are using logic, science and evidence in your discussion.

2) Accuse your opponent of being a liar, or try some other tactic that will (hopefully) make him angry. If he responds in kind to your endless taunts, change the subject to his anger, and accuse him of name calling. If he accuses you of provoking him, then you have changed the subject of the debate. If he stays on topic, keep the heat up. The Believers in the audience will forgive the worst verbal attacks you use, but they will think even the mildest replies he makes to you are personal attacks that undermine his argument.

3) Ask questions. That makes it look as though you’ve done some thinking (or parroting). Ignore answers. Keep asking the same questions. Think, “Wooooo”. It’s fun to say, “Wooooo”

4) Have inflated self-esteem. “All the structural engineers in the world are wrong, but I know the TRUTH”

5) Once your “obvious” “common sense” has been shown to be insane gibberish, create a sock puppet, and then make the exact same arguments,
6) Never engage people who respond politely and factually. Only engage those who are clearly irritated with having rebutted the same tripe over and over. Then complain that they have resorted to taunts and insults because they can’t rebut your claims.

7) Never post on topic – when backed into a corner change the subject. This prevents any subject from being resolved and allows debunked material to be recycled.Bring up previously debunked material. This cycle of the same material will prevent anyone from realizing that any one of the many theories lacks a cohesive narrative or makes sense globally.Treat all information and sources as equal. Youtube, AFP, other conspiracy sites, are equal to the NYT, scientific reports, and expert opinion. Anyone who disagrees is calling your sources liars.Never answer questions – your job is to ask the questions. This allows you to keep enough control of the debate to prevent the house of cards from falling all around you. Ban anyone who asks too many logical questions from your forums.” Written by Orphia Nay – http://orphia-nay.blogspot.com/2007/01/911-truther-credo.html

There has been some concern that I have a very defensive stance concerning what I am doing, and I would just like to say, in my defense, that it has not been easy putting my story out there and having the group of people come down on me as they have. Instead of considering what I have to say- I have been attacked by others personally- being called crazy, a killer, a pedophile, etc. All of these things are untrue- and to be quite honest- they have been pretty hurtful. I have decided to plod on- and try to get my story out there in hopes that someone might investigate it- but I am saddened at everything I have had to go through when I consider what others before me must have gone through as well as those who will come after. There is a real push to deny the truth- and most of the attacks are not about the specifics of my case but rather have to deal with me personally, and coming from strangers, most of them are flat out lies and falsehoods. However, suggesting that I am feeling defensive is not incorrect. I do. And I think there are good reasons why I feel that way, and considering what I have gone through- not only in my childhood but in my adult life trying to get all of this investigated, I think it is not only normal that I feel this way- but it would be abnormal if I didn’t. I am sick of being attacked- of having strangers make arbitrary comments about me anonymously and having those comments mean more than what I am trying to present about my history. All over the internet- on websites and chats and such- I have had amateur psychological conclusions being made that are ridiculous- and yet the gossip that our society seems to be obsessed with makes it hard to overcome those opinions. I was a victim of extreme abuse- and come from a family that made the Manson family look like the Cleavers, and I am sick of having a concerted group of people- such as Sheri Storm and others, purposely stirring and muddying the waters so that it becomes more about me than what I have been trying to present and have investigated.

The fact that I have been emailing Nebraska State Patrolman Deputy John Pankonin, Omaha’s city mayor Jim Suttle, Douglas County Judge Marlon Polk, the local Omaha FBI, as well as a myriad of others and have gotten no where but having my book seller’s threatened to prevent them from selling my book, I have found my situation completely and utterly frustrating. How does one get justice anyway- if they don’t have a large pocketbook- which is what I am fighting basically- large and powerful pocketbooks? And why is it that the crimes I am reporting are less valid than what a group of people what to personally think of me? There is no statute of limitations on murder- and that is EXACTLY what I am trying to get investigated. Regardless of who I am as a person, what I spiritually believe, and despite the fact that I have been increasingly frustrated at the lack of willingness on the part of our local officials to look into this- the crimes that I have and am reporting are real- and need to be investigated. However, because of politics, and money- I doubt this will ever happen- which is probably why I am so tense and disheartened. Am I defensive? Damn straight- but I have had friends and family members murdered over all of this- as well as having mine and others lives trashed to the point of annihilation- so I believe that I am justified with this particular emotional response.

Just think for a minute and ask yourself- how would you feel?