Lol the Hampstead case is whining about being victims. They post horrible homophobic pro Hitler nonsense and then when they get caught, they all claim they were set up and are not responsible for what they said. Fiona Barnett and i, David Shurter, have shown that the ” good guys” are working directly with the bad guys in order to discredit and control the narrative about this case and now they are clamoring that we are disinfo agents, never ONCE dealing with the evidence at hand. They all seem to be working in conjunction with each other claiming that Fiona and i laid in wait for the Hampstead children to first be born, then be abused, then for the case to come along so we could discredit it. Nothing Fiona and i have done or said in the decade + we have been working to expose all of this crap matters- the ONLY thing that matters is the Hampstead case, which is being used to try and dismiss EVERY OTHER ALLEGED CRIME THAT HAS COME BEFORE IT. this group is just mad this isn’t happening and so they are using the only card they have left by claiming Fiona and i are disinfo. It is sad really. And anyone with a discerning eye who looks at all of this can easily see what they are trying to do.

First off, I have no intentions of playing games. I never made a video with anyone- and the only person I have been involved with in filming anything is with a friend of mine and no one else. This weird attempt to try and make me out to be a disinfo agent is ridiculous- and it not going to work. I have been focused and active at exposing this whole mess for far too long, and have been to outspoken for far too long- way longer than the Hampstead children have even been alive, to say that I am playing for the other side. This whole idea is being fueled by a group of Hampstead supporters with the heavy direction of Sonya Vangelder.

I may have been at this for well over a decade- but Sonya Vangelder definitely has not. She has been in this for only a year. And yet she is another one who is trying to claim that she is now an expert- while doing her best to try and trash other survivors- such as Fiona Barnett, who is actually making a difference with exposing Australia’s mess concerning the same types of allegations there. Now there are reasons why Sonya is focused on Fiona- and I would like to take an opportunity to explain why.

Fiona lives in Australia and has been working diligently- for even longer than myself- to expose this elite Luciferian child pedophile trafficking ring that is happening down under. Fiona has made amazing progress and has really begun to make a significant difference with regards to all of this. But it seems Sonya is ALSO from Australia. She, by her own admission, has only been at this for about a year- and yet she is claiming she is an expert at the same time she is now trying to trash Fiona- who is finally making a difference. She has somehow ingratiated herself into the survivor community- and for some reason- there are some who are giving her more credibility to her short time investigation than to survivors who have a proven record of trying to expose this for well over a decade or more. Considering Austrailia, like the UK and the US, have shown themselves to be desperate to silence this information about an organized Luciferian child sex trafficking ring, I believe that Sonya is yet another disinfo agent sent in to try and control all of this- but the Australian version. However- since Fiona and I joined forces- and I am focused on Hampstead- now Sonya has become focused on Hampstead. Why? Because it is her job to do her best to try and prevent anyone from listening to Fiona- and now me- but really, anyone who is trying to expose this elite Luciferian child sex ring. She is just another agent involved in trying to contain all of this.

Sonya came on Facebook and did her best to try and subtly discredit me. When it didn’t work- she sent Fiona messages on Facebook two days later- complete with a highly triggering email about snuff films with some incredibly graphic pictures involved. This was done for one of two reasons as I can see- it was either meant as a threat to Fiona- or an attempt to trigger her. Either way- it was intended to shut her down and to make her stop talking. Afterwards- when Fiona decided to block her- this same Sonya and her supporters have gone out of their way to try and make Fiona appear nefarious by attempting to discredit her by claiming that she is a disinfo agent. Exactly the same thing they are now trying to say about me. All of this is just a feeble attempt to prevent people from listening to us. Again- it isn’t going to work- but that doesn’t mean that the game still isn’t being played.

I have undisputedly shown that the “good guys” in Hampstead are working in direct conjunction with the bad guys- and that, as far as personalities go, the “good guys” are just as bad with their homophobic pro Hitler beliefs as the Luciferians they are supposedly going against. Instead of dealing with this fact- which indicates that my belief is correct that Hampstead is attempting to be used to create another case like McMartin which happened here in the US in order to try and dismiss the 19 previous cases of abuse that they currently have and the undisputable fact that the UK went through a HUGE cover-up concerning the very same types of allegations in the 80s- now this collection of con artists are either publically announcing on their Hoaxtead Research website that they are “ignoring” me- claiming that they are not going to feed my supposed need for attention any longer while those who are claiming to be working on the good side are spouting that I am a disinfo agent who has planned- for at least 12 years now, that I was going to infiltrate the Hampstead case. But however ridiculous these arguments become- I need to point out that this evidence is not ABOUT me, but rather are about the fact that there is now proof that another cover up is being attempted with the Hampstead case and to make it out about anything or anyone else is nothing but a deliberate distraction from the truth. And since evidence shows that a myriad of cover ups are currently taking place, esp with the Hampstead case, claiming otherwise is indicative that the person speaking is not playing on the right side and/or is actively involved with trying to cover up these allegations.

Fiona has released indisputable facts concerning this luciferian child trafficking group of elites situation in Austrailia- which is why the perp she called out- Nichole Kidman’s father Anthony Kidman- “committed suicide”. Sonya Vangelder may claim that she didn’t mean anything nefarious sending Fiona the article with a plethora of images of dead chopped up bodies within it but her campaign to discredit Fiona after Fiona blocked her indicates otherwise. This whole business has so many people involved who are posing as good guys but are actually bad guys in order to keep it under wraps that it is amazing- and Soyna- by her own actions- has shown herself to be opposite of what she claims. In fact is seems incredibly apparent that she and her group are doing their best to discredit and control the narrative concerning all of this. The whole you will know a tree by the fruits it bears comes to mind.

However- like I said in the beginning- I am not going to be distracted by these pathetic games. The jig is up- and there is more than enough evidence to indicate that all of this needs a looking into and can no longer be dismissed as it always has been in the past. With 19 cases, one involving Hollie Gregg who is a down syndrome child who claimed ritual abuse and miraculously caught an STD, and the proven historic cover up in the UK-all of this has evolved in such a way that it is NO LONGER about specific individuals but more about a PATTERN of extreme abuse that is occurring in the system- which in and of itself is reason for concern. Therefore- it isn’t about Fiona and it is also certainly NOT ABOUT ME. It is about the fact that case after case after case keep coming out with allegations that a Luciferian AntiChrist loving, demon worshiping, sex depraved, pedophile child killing group is hurting children and making tons of money in the process. Just like what happened in the US in the 80’s, with the same types of allegations, that happened at the exact same time that a proven cover up happened in the UK with, again, the same types of allegations. Just like what is coming out about Australia- involving the exact same types of allegations. The evidence of wrong doing is overwhelming, which is why there is such a squawking about those like Fiona and I, who both are directly involved with pointing all this mess out.

New Years has been great for me. I had time to reflect and contemplate where I am now and where I am headed and I just wanted to share some of my thoughts through this time.

1). God is with me, always. I know there are some of you who poo poo the thought of God- but let me assure you- Heaven- the Father- AND the Mother- as most assuredly real. Growing up with Luciferians- who taught me the realities of demons- it was pretty hard not to realize that if one was true- so was the other. But anyway- I just wanted to say that God is not only with me- but with us all. All of Heaven is here right now- and I am grateful for the love and security that Heaven has so abundantly bestowed upon me.

2). I’m not going to go into real detail about this- but some have argued that this case I am involved with in the UK called the Hampstead case (all about you can read on my blog) dealing with two horribly ritually abused children is that my focus is not on the children and that I don’t care about them. Only the ladder of these two arguments is untrue. I care deeply about these children. However- they are NOT my focus I have to admit. The cult behind these activities- which I am going to write about in detail today- is MY focus. The Hampstead children- although I care about them- they are a symbol of the MYRIADS of children who have been decimated with all of this Luciferian worshiping of demons and the “AntiChrist”. And I am not going to let Hampstead become another version of McMartin Preschool. It ain’t gonna happen again. So those of you who argue that my focus is not on the two children- you are somewhat correct- because they certainly are not my ONLY- nor my MAIN focus. I am focused on the CULT.

3). I am amazed how different this year was to those recently in the past. I have grown quite comfortable being single- and although I once thought it would kill me- I am actually enjoying the time I get to spend with myself alone. It is easier hearing the voice of Heaven in silence- and I have become to enjoy- maybe for the first time in my life- the pleasure of my own company. Wow- who would have known? Certainly not me.

4). I have come to realize that I have really made a difference with what I have been doing all these years because so many people have told me that I have empowered and help to heal them. It was just a nice feeling last night contemplating that fact- and I truly appreciate all of you as well- because it helps me to realize that I am accomplishing one of my goals in all of this. To show that we need not fear and in fact need to be strong to stand and tell what we went through- comfortable in the fact that there are so many of us that it will be impossible to deny us any longer. Last night- I discovered that I had incredible faith that this is about to happen. All survivors are beginning to feel that it is time to take a stand and testify to what we went through. Neither the US nor the UK experienced any form of “moral panic” as it has been called. What they experienced was a MORAL HOLOCAUST because there wasn’t a decent, honest, or HUMAN component in it. All it was, all it IS STILL, is a celebration of depravity. Nothing more.

5). Lastly- I was amused at my wonderful friend Larry who died this past year. I once told him that he was a tank with a flame thrower attached to it and he liked it- esp. since he liked to think about lighting people on fire with his mind. It made him feel better to think about when he had to deal with idiots- which, as a truck driver, he had to endure a LOT. He was one of the most decent- and funniest- guys I have ever met. Anyway- he died at the end of this year. Funny thing about the other side though- there ARE NO LIMITATIONS. No flesh to limit the energy vibrations I guess. Anyway- in a recent Shamanic journey- it came to my attention that Larry has been busy. The mansion were Allister Crowley lived- – grandfather of occult magic as we know it today- burned down a couple weeks or so ago. You see- Larry- with the rest of ALL of Heaven- is focused on helping me as well- and I was told that symbolically- which is what the cult understands- it means their foundation is gone. Razing Crowley’s house just destroyed it and whether anyone wants to admit it or not- it is a DEFINITE sign of things to come. Fact is what I was taught at a child is REAL and it WORKS. And I am really good at it. And I am grateful that Larry- who is far from finished- is standing by my side and helping from the other side. And I thought Crowley’s mansion burning down was brilliant.

6). I just want to finish off with what I think is important to tell others. The Luciferians were right. We are at the gates of Heaven. I did not believe them for the longest time but damn- they were actually telling the truth. Anyway- Jesus isn’t coming to save us and restore this world. That is yet another lie. What is going to happen is that God is bringing every one of us to Him. Thus- mankind is on the verge of a HUGE mass die off. Going through this is going to test ALL of us and especially our FAITH. However, that is because there is a “new earth” that we are going to. Everything that is dying on this side- and considering that we are in a 6th period extinction event that pretty much means everything- is WAKING UP on the New Earth. God has prepared an amazing place for us- and we are headed there soon. So when things start to go down- and they ARE going to go down- please keep this in mind and realize that although what we are all facing ahead of us is going to be painful and hard- it is nothing but the birth pains of something so wonderful that many of you could not even comprehend. So keep faith and trust in Heaven. It has all of us in its hand and it loves all of us unconditionally.

7). Ok- with that- one more thing- and this is primarily for Luciferians but can be pretty much for anyone who loves having a dark heart. Have no worries- you are about to get exactly what you have always wanted. You wanted separation from God- and you wanted to be just like the demons you have worshiped- and so you are going to get your wish. Of course- no God means no light. There is a darkness that is even now claiming you. Search your tiny little hearts and you will know what I am saying is true. When you find yourselves in this darkness- after your initial shock and horror- you will have nothing to do but to go to sleep. And when that happens- you are not going to be able to wake. In that sleep- you will have the opportunities to do all of the nasty stuff you enjoy. Rape torture- sacrifice- but you are all going to do it to yourselves. Your own dreams are going to replay all of your groups “indiscretions” over and over and over- in its ENTIRETY of the horror and pain it created, for each one of you personally- up close and personal (just the way you all like it)- as you do to yourselves in your nightmares what you have done- and have been a part of doing- to so many others on this side. And it will never stop- and you will have no reprieve- because all of you will be asleep and it will be playing out in your dreams. You are taking the place of those you worshiped for so long- and since they never slept- you are never going to wake. In a way- it is the same thing. And this is going to go on for exactly as long as the fallen have been here. Just to assure you- that is a really, really, really, really, really, really LONG ASS time. And there is absolutely NOTHING ANY OF YOU can do about it. The conditions are the same as they have always been- COME CLEAN OR BE CLAIMED. But just remember- when you all get claimed and you realize that I told you the truth- just don’t forget the fact that I TOLD YOU SO.

Today this comment was left on the Hoaxtead site…

and the same person left this on several of my YouTube videos…

So the very people who are seemingly going against Abe Christie are also one defending him on my YouTube stations.

So how does that work? It seems to me that they are working in conjunction with each other. Otherwise- why are the Hoaxstead people- who are supposedly against Abe- defending him on my YouTube videos?

Seems I was right all along- they are working in conjunction with each other.

funny how that works.

I want to deal with this whole issue that people have with my anger and this argument that I am thriving on negativity- which is being used by the people who are directly against me.

Let me remind everyone that God himself has wrath. Anger is normal. Alan asked me what I was trained to do- and so let me answer. I was trained to focus and use my anger to drive through whatever is in front of me. It doesn’t fuel me- but rather focuses me. I was taught the same as Fiona- to see through the bullshit and deal with it head on and use my anger as a driving force.

My question is- in dealing with children being tortured, raped, and murdered- should I be happy? Should I be happy with all of the attacks I have endured trying to expose this? Because I think that would be highly disingenuous. People are claiming that anger is wrong- that is connected with the dark- but God himself has anger. I believe that my anger is a righteous anger- that being forced into the positions I was a child and the anger that I feel towards it is normal- and human. People claiming that I need to let my anger go generally are not ones who like to deal with their own anger. Why? Because it makes them uncomfortable and they don’t like to deal with that. No- anger is not healthy to focus on 24/7 but I don’t. I have a great life- a lot of love- and I am not always angry. But yeah- dealing with this is frustrating and does make me angry. And I have a tendency to vent. Those who find this unpleasant are just trying to placate themselves in order to make themselves comfortable. But my contention is that the horrid abuse of children SHOULD make a person angry and that it is normal and healthy.

There are many people NOT connected to the cult or the bad side who are upset at my anger and uncomfortable with it. So they would rather just go with the flow. Of course- the cult has control of that direction. It seems that people might not like the way that the world is going- but they still sit passively by and allow things to keep going because they are afraid of their anger. However- anger is part of the human condition. We all have anger. But for some reason- if you show that anger- however human that anger might be- oftentimes you will find yourself discredited for showing that anger. Would it be better if I was happy dealing with child torture, rape, and murder? Would that further my cause? I don’t think so. I find this situation repellant- and so I am angry that it has been allowed to endure for so long- by a society that is more than eager to look away in order to make themselves feel better. I don’t like anger- it is exhausting and depleting- but sometimes it is necessary. I believe that this situation is one of those times that anger is righteous and justified- and I don’t respect those who disagree. If the horrific abuse of children doesn’t make you angry then there is something wrong with you. One thing I know for certain is that God himself is angry about it. And if anything should make us uncomfortable- it is that fact and that fact alone. And this compulsion society has to look away and just allow it to happen has made God very angry indeed.

I am not going to apologize for my anger- nor am I going to apologize for expressing that anger instead of bottling it so that others don’t feel uncomfortable. I do not like what I am doing with all of this. I certainly don’t like being put in the position that I am, but I don’t feel as if I have any choice. If I turn away so that others don’t have to deal with their unease concerning all of this- it will make me complicit with the rape, torture, and murder of children. I am not. So I will continue to do what I am doing. Does this whole mess anger me? Yep- it sure does. But will I turn away just to placate myself and others- absolutely not. Besides- other than Fiona Barnett- I don’t see any others who are trying to expose and change this situation. The good guys generally are working in conjunction with the bad side- which is why these type of situations have been allowed to thrive as they have. She is actually no happier about children being raped, tortured, and murdered than I am. Why? Because she is human- and it shows that those who AREN’T upset with this have lost their humanity. If you don’t care about children- who have been named God’s favorites over and over throughout time in every spiritual text we have, then you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. Turning away from children is turning away from God- and claiming otherwise is ignorant and folly on your part.

So I will continue. Do I like the negativity- which has been heaped on me? No. Will I run and hide from it? No. Why? Because I love God and I love people and I love children and sometimes we all need to take a stand to do what is right and just to show God that we love God. Our true faith is determined by our acts- not our talk. If you don’t want to take a stand for children- then don’t. But when the consequences come back and bite you on the ass- like going on and on with homophobic Pro Hitler rants and then crying when it gets exposed- the consequences will be yours alone- and no amount of whining will change that.

Child abuse to this degree should make all of us angry. If it doesn’t- then you need to ask yourselves what exactly is wrong with you- because being angry about this is human- and if you aren’t angry about this situation- there is something wrong with you and not those who are angry. The problem lies with you and your compulsion to disregard everything but your own need to be comfortable and happy. God isn’t happy. So why do some of you feel that you should be? Are you above God? I don’t think so- and those who think they are have ALWAYS fallen into chaos. Anger is normal- it is natural- and it is reasonable. Constantly denying your anger- or running from it- is not. No matter what your new age bullshit tells you.

“The interview with Ed Opperman, which was to have catapulted Abrella into the stratospheric realms of internet stardom, has instead become an albatross around their collective necks. And it looks as though they’ll be carrying some of their most fervent supporters with them: Angela Fag-Ash Disney, Guidance/Code 2222, and Olu Essien Popoola all look set to take a tumble as Abrella’s stock slips from blue chip status into the low single digits.”

Abe’s stock plummets in wake of Hoaxtead implosion

These are the VERY PEOPLE who are working hand in hand with the Hoaxtead Research team. They call these people out not because they are working with survivors- but because they are working for the bad side and they call them out to make them look like real advocates so that survivors will work with them. This is a game. These people are working with Hoaxtead and they call them out to make people think that they are against them when really their objective is to give these people credibility so that survivors CONTINUE to work with them. It is a kind of slight of hand in order to make them appear like they are good guys when really they are anything but. This is done as a game. I just wanted to point this out. Hoaxtead is calling them out on purpose- so that survivors will believe that these people are working for the good side when they are anything but.

One needs to be aware of the games when dealing with this mess. These people ARE NOT to be trusted- and it doesn’t matter what Hoaxtead says.

Also- Angela Power Disney and I only spoke a few times during a few days- and it was NOT a long term friendship as the Hoaxtead people claim. She always wanted me on video when we Skyped- always wanted to speak about Michael Aquino- and when that didn’t work- that is when she told me that she wanted to invite me to join forces with Doug Deitrich, an Aquino apologist and friend of Michael Aquino. I blocked her on Facebook- and when I realized she had another account- I blocked that one as well. This happened within a weeks time. So unless Hoaxtead is asserting that a week or less is a long standing time- they are deliberately lying and trying to deceive- trying to give her credibility by saying that we are friends and blaming Abe for the fall out. It had nothing to do with Abe but was Angela herself that caused me to block her- and this all happened within less than a week.

This is a game. Hoaxtead are NOT good people. And I am not trying to help them at all. i think they are a group of cult pedophile protectors and are as bad as any in this crap. But I wanted to point out the games that they are playing- and to warn people that if they come out against certain people- chances are they are doing this because they are WORKING WITH THEM and they just don’t want anyone to know.

So I guess I was suppose to let this group abuse me and then not say anything. They are the victims in their opinion because I exposed their crap- but are not at any way responsible for saying what they said. This next conversation is inundated with satanist Doug Mesner/Lucien Greave’s crap- but I feel that I should publish the whole conversation just to be fair. So this group says it is fighting against the cult- but they have absolutely no problem using a satanists crap to try and trash me. They say that this exposes me as a fraud- but in my opinion- it shows exactly what I have endured throughout the years that I have tried to expose this. It shows the constant attacks I have dealt with. I am not going to do anything other than post the conversation on Facebook- without commentary or trying to defend myself- but for those of you who are interested- I have answered all of these accusations from satanist Dougy over and over throughout my blog. However- it shows that these “supporters” of the children will stop at nothing to try and silence me.

Alan Alanson Are you for real ? the big investigator/researcher….

YOU HAVE JUST GIVEN AMMO FOR HOAXSHED YOU FUCKING MUPPET..

Posting Screen shots of A secret group convo…

A late Xmas gift from David!

Alan Alanson WELL DONE DICKHEAD… You are wrong on all fronts, falling out does not mean you go post private convo in PUBLIC… unless this was your remit all along eh?

Alan Alanson WELL DONE DICKHEAD… You are wrong on all fronts, falling out does not mean you go post private convo in PUBLIC… unless this was your remit all along eh?

Alan Alanson You are COINTELL David Shurter and you fucking know it, you have laids ya balls on the table for all to see… WATCH THIS QUOTE FROM YOU..
” I’ll have to put that in one of my blogs, this group supports Hitler”

A group trying its utmost to get this Hampstead Case reinvestigated

You’re numbers up dickhead, you have busted yourself AGENT MAN..

Alan Alanson Your creditability & trustability has just shot out the window never to return…

“Right here, in this youtube video (https://youtu.be/4i3B8mtuQNg): “David Shurter speaks for testify project…” You don’t even have to watch much of it, Shurter makes the claim only 20 seconds in.

On his blog, Shurter now says that his father was not involved in cannibalism and any suggestion that Shurter said he was would be “so way off base”. But the evidence is right here for you to see and hear. Shurter says that his father was High Priest of a satanic cult operating in Omaha…”and as his son I participated in and witnessed cannibalism, blood sacrifice and murder at his side…”. He can’t even remember what lies he has told about his family & childhood – all the proof that anyone needs, to know that this man is a liar and a fraud!”

http://www.dysgenics.com/2013/12/22/david-shurters-epic-fail/

Alan Alanson http://www.dysgenics.com/…/12/22/david-shurters-epic-fail/

David Shurter And again the article you are posting again is written by a satanist. So you are claiming to be a good guy but using a satanists BS to try and slander me. Just like you are claiming i simultaneously stood over a group of people all over the world with a gun to their head and forced them to write about promoting Hitler on Facebook. For Gods sake take some responsibility.

David Shurter There is way more to my life than Hampstead dude, and i have been trying to expose this before these children were even born. Blaming me for your group talking about Hitler is stupid. Like i was telling them what to type and say. Your problem alan is your little group isnt who you say you are and you are mad for getting called out. If they threatened to get you guys to talk about Hitler, it makes more sense you set me up rather than claim i was controlling all of you as to what you wrote. So please do ne a favor and go to hell.

Alan Alanson You are pathetic… One person mentions Hitler, & you say its the group!!

Alan Alanson FROM WAYBACKMACHINE::::

“Why Information at this Link was Removed” 28 July 2013

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Satans Shaman

David Shurter has been through an ordeal few of us can imagine. For that, he deserves sympathy. He is brave enough to speak out about it. For that, he deserves support.

But David also wants to be an unquestioned leader, guiding people into his version of shamanism. For that, he must be discredited and stopped.

Shamanism, as practiced by indigenous peoples, views the shaman as an extremely rare individual with beneficial supernatural gifts. The practitioners of David’s version of Shamanism consider everyone capable of becoming their own god. That sounds familiar. Isn’t that identical to the philosophy practiced by Luciferians, the same group of global parasites who are destroying our world today — the same group of psychopaths who devised David’s program of abuse in the first place? They have conditioned him well, and he is not even aware of how faithfully he is serving their zionist, anti-heterosexual agenda.

Instead of objective discussion, David counters anyone who tries to prevent him from being his own god, by launching vicious public attacks, accusing them of being paid government operatives, and casting spells for their suffering and demise. He believes his own personal feelings to be truth and law. That is a hallmark of a mentally unbalanced tyrant. It also raises questions as to how many of his subjective feelings can be relied upon as fact.

Therefore, I cannot in good conscience endorse David as a leader in the survivor community, or promote sales of his book. He is simply too damaged, too volatile, and utterly lacking in critical thinking skills. You can still listen and learn from his experiences (http:// web.archive DOT org/web/20140817062828/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3FWNZqp_EI). But maintain a healthy distance. And work to help all survivors in their healing, not just the few who have elected themselves gods.

Alan Alanson Excerpt:

“Shurter calls himself an advocate for child sex abuse victims, but when his friends were charged with crimes against children, did he believe the children? NO! Even now, when he wrote this book, he dismissed the child victim’s disclosures as “ridiculous”. He goes on to refer to the three boys, who were 11 and 12 years old*, by the derogatory term of “hustler” rather than as child sex trafficking victims – which is what they would be, if they really had been prostituting themselves.”

/////*[Quoted from Mark Andersen’s appeal, click on State vs Andersen link further down; “Mark G. Andersen appeals his jury convictions and sentences on two charges of first degree sexual assault and three charges of sexual assault on a child. The victims were three preteenage boys in Omaha, J.M., B.T., and S.M…Andersen at time of trial was a 38-year-old homosexual male; his alleged victims, J.M., B.T., and S.M., testified truthfully to Andersen’s sexual behavior toward them; and at the time the offenses occurred, J.M. and S.M. were each 11 years old, and B.T. was 12 years old.”]/////

“He insinuates that because the boys were supposedly involved in prostitution, that would make them more likely to be lying about his good friend Mark Andersen abusing them! Some sex trafficking victim advocate he is – what a fraud! Shurter shows no understanding at all, that when an adult pays a child for sex that makes the adult guilty of child sex trafficking, and that the child is always victimized by such a transaction. He even commits the infamous sex crime denialist rationalization of minimizing the seriousness of the children’s accusations, saying that Andersen might have either “inadvertently” [HAH!] or intentionally “touched one boys butt” – but only one boy and he only touched it, he seems to be saying.”

“Shurter then goes on to slander the victim’s parents as extortionists, and dismiss the victim’s disclosures as payback for Andersen not paying the alleged extortion! He repeats this slander several times, even falsely claiming that it was established as fact in the trial.”

“Most outrageous of all, Shurter dismisses all of the victim’s disclosures and testimony, and all of the child pornography seized by police, as: “No real evidence linked Mark and Walt to any crime”.”

http://www.dysgenics.com/2014/02/03/david-shurter-claims-involvement-in-cannibalism/

David Shurter Dude you are an idiot. My life is so much more about Hampstead and you seem more than pissed i outted your little group, one who was a moderator of it, for going on about Hitler. You all wanna play games then man the fuck up and take the consequences. I have been trying to expose what i went through in omaha WAY BEFORE those children were even a thought so now saying i am here only because of you is ridiculous. And incredibly narcissistic. You just dont like the fact someone saw through you guys and said something.

David Shurter Wow you are pulling out everything the cult has used against me. Funny. But you are one of the good guys. Lol. Something tells me that isnt true. But go ahead, everything you are posting gives me the opportunity to deal with head on. So thanks. Keep it coming. Nut notice the dates of what you are posting. All of it happened way before hampstead was even a case.

Alan Alanson Bullshit, you claim the big I am regards Ted Gunderson & DeCamp, it was probably your doing that discredited those Guy’s… like you are now doing here re Hampstead.

Alan Alanson You have outted no one but yourself Boy… We know who we are… & now we know who you are…

David Shurter That is retarded. They discredited themselves. You are just having a hissy fit cause you all got called out and are mad.

David Shurter Wow i bet you will be as effective with your supposed knowledge as you have helping the hampstead children. Sad.

Alan Alanson You are cointell mate, you have called out nothing … only slated Abe & Ella, then proceeded to cause havoc in the group… THAT’S IT

David Shurter you guys started shit, you guys promoted Hitler, but because i outted you, somehow you want to make it all my fault. Just because i let people know what happened.

Alan Alanson You sir a fkn bear faced liar!! only ONE PERSON mentioned Hilter… now you say the group advocate it FUCK OFF you tit…

David Shurter Abe lol. Speaking about cointel pro. Some stranger throwing a fit because i showed who you really are calling me something im not because of a hissy fit.

Alan Alanson LIAR,…… BULLSHIT MERCHANT,

David Shurter Maria brought it up araya went on about it and the rest defended araya. People can read it for themselves.

David Shurter More names. More hissy fit. Boo hoo hoo.

Alan Alanson Listen Mr Shurter, I’m done with you… you are a blatant plant, Cointell operator… Leave this convo for all to see if you have the BALLS…

Alan Alanson Pedophile protector – “one of Shurter’s most offensive habits, is gratuitously labelling anyone he dislikes as a “pedophile protector” – but this is also one of his stupider blunders, because he lives in a Glass House.”

///////“13 Charged in Porn Probe; Boys Taped, Debauched, December 19, 1985, Omaha World-Herald (metro): Omaha police began a roundup Thursday of 13 men facing a total of 99 charges coming from a six-week, citywide investigation into sexual exploitation of boys. [The list included Walter Carlson and Mark Andersen.]”

“Court Orders Trial in Sex Case, January 7, 1986, Omaha World-Herald: A 16-year-old boy testified Monday that he engaged in a sex act with Walter Carlson during the summer of 1984 after watching pornographic movies in Carlson’s home”.

“Jury Told Boys Fabricated Reports of Sexual Assault, September 9, 1987, Omaha World-Herald: A 38-year-old Omaha man went to court Tuesday for the start of his trial on charges that he sexually assaulted 11-year-old boys in his home. Mark G. Andersen …faces sexual assault charges involving three boys and five alleged sexual assaults in 1984 and 1985″.

“Jury in Sex-Assault Trial Hears Two Boys Testify, September 9, 1987, Omaha World-Herald (metro): A 13-year-old Omaha boy testified Wednesday that overnight visits with Mark G. Andersen usually included pornographic movies and sex. The boy, testifying in the second day of Andersen’s trial on charges of sexual assault involving three boys, said Andersen made sexual advances during most of the 75 or 80 visits to Andersen’s house in 1984 and 1985″./////

“In Shurter’s pathetic excuse for a book, “Rabbit Hole”, he calls Walter Carlson and Mark Andersen, his friends! His convicted pedophile friends! Worse, he dismisses the testimony of the child victims in these cases as “no real evidence” and tries to portray these pedophile perpetrators as innocent victims of a conspiracy by the boys and their families:”

//////“Mark Andersen and Walt Carlson were convicted and sentenced to spend years in prison. No real evidence linked Mark and Walt to any crime, but Omaha had become a circus dictating justice from a kangaroo court. The fact that the parents of the boy had tried to extort money from Mark before going to the police (which came out in court), was insufficient to save him and Walt from prison” – Shurter, in Rabbit Hole./////

“The facts are very clear, however, despite Shurter’s attempts to protect his pedophile friends. The record of Mark Andersen’s unsuccessful appeal contains particularly disturbing evidence of his perverted predatory behaviour, and the children’s sincerity comes through loud & clear:”

///////“Andersen at time of trial was a 38-year-old homosexual male; his alleged victims, J.M., B.T., and S.M., testified truthfully to Andersen’s sexual behavior toward them; and at the time the offenses occurred, J.M. and S.M. were each 11 years old, and B.T. was 12 years old.

All three boys testified to going to Andersen’s house to spend the night. Sometimes two of the boys were alone and, at least once, all three were in a group. Two of the boys testified that a normal evening was to watch movies on Andersen’s VCR and then to go to sleep, usually in Andersen’s bed. Sometimes, the boys also ate dinner with Andersen.

The boys related watching sexually explicit movies late into the night. The boys testified that when they did go to sleep, they were awakened later by Andersen’s sexual advances.

J.M. testified he met the defendant through his cousin, B.T., and B.T.’s friend, S.M. J.M. told the jury that he, B.T., and S.M. spent a night at Andersen’s together. There was evidence that a young girl was also present. The youngsters watched movies, then went to bed. The room in which they slept served as Andersen’s living room and bedroom. Furniture included a TV, VCR, a bookshelf full of videocassettes, and one bed with a separate mattress stored underneath. On this particular evening, J.M. was sleeping on the floor in front of the television. He awoke. Andersen’s hands were inside the boy’s pants touching his buttocks, J.M. testified. J.M. spent one other night at Andersen’s residence. He stayed awake all night and refused to return to Andersen’s residence.

S.M.’s testimony corroborated the above version of the one night at Andersen’s house. He also told of staying one night when B.T. was also present. After that, Andersen insisted that the boys come alone to spend the night. A typical evening for S.M. involved watching movies and going to bed. The defendant, who was naked, insisted that S.M. wear only underwear and sleep with Andersen in the bed, which was a single-sized, one-person bed.

On one occasion, S.M. awakened to an X-rated movie on the VCR and Andersen masturbating himself. S.M. told the jury Andersen also attempted to masturbate S.M. S.M. testified he stayed with the defendant many times over a period of several months and that every time, the defendant engaged S.M. in sexual acts. S.M. told the jury that the sexual activity progressed until one night S.M. was awakened when Andersen stuck his penis into S.M.’s rectum. The defendant also stuck his tongue in the boy’s rectum and placed his mouth on S.M.’s penis, according to S.M.’s testimony.

B.T. also corroborated J.M.’s version of the night all three boys stayed at Andersen’s residence. As well, B.T. corroborated S.M.’s statement that Andersen insisted the boys stay with him alone. B.T. testified that when he stayed with Andersen, he too encountered sexual acts similar to those suffered by S.M.

B.T. was also required to sleep in his underwear on Andersen’s one-person bed while Andersen slept naked. B.T. testified he awakened and found the defendant’s hand in the boy’s underwear masturbating him. Andersen also put his mouth on *210 B.T.’s penis and inserted his own penis in B.T.’s rectum, B.T. told the jury.

B.T. testified that between June or July of 1984 and early December 1985, on almost every weekend, both he and S.M. had spent overnight with Andersen at the defendant’s home. B.T. said he and S.M. visited the defendant on different nights of the weekend. B.T. testified that there was never a time when he visited Andersen overnight that a sex act did not occur. S.M. testified he stayed overnight with the defendant weekly during the summer and every other week during the school year. Andersen testified that during the year-and-a-half period, the number of times the boys stayed overnight with him may have totaled about 60″.////////

“David Shurter likes to call people “pedophile protectors” as a gratuitous, slanderous insult – but never provides evidence for a specific person acting as protector to specific pedophiles. By his own words, however, Shurter demonstrates himself to be exactly what he accuses others of being without cause.”

David Shurter Lol again using a satanists work to trash me but you have no affiliation with the cult. Lol. Anyone who speaks against your bullshit is cointel pro and you guys obviously have no problem with using the cults crap to attack with. You claim i forced the conversation and none of you are responsible for anthing you do. Promoting Hitler, using the cults BS against me even though you are claiming i am part of the cult and all kinds of other BS that none of you are responsible for.

http://www.dysgenics.com/2013/12/22/david-shurters-epic-fail/

Alan Alanson ByVindalfon February 22, 2014
Format: Paperback

Rabbit Hole by David Shurter, is the best example of someone heartlessly exploiting the tragic topic of child abuse for their own self-promotion that I have ever seen. Everyone should read this book, or at least the free sample chapter available online, to learn what someone falsely claiming to care about sexually abused children sounds like in their own words. In chapter 8 of this book, “The Unraveling Begins”, David Shurter defends two of the most heinous convicted child sex abusers in Omaha’s history – his old friends Walt Carlson and Mark Andersen. Shurter dismisses the charges of crimes against children which led to these men’s convictions as “ridiculous”. Shurter dismisses the disclosures and testimony of the prepubescent child victims as “no real evidence”. Shurter slanders some of the victims & their families, claiming that the children’s disclosures were part of an extortion plot against Andersen orchestrated by the parents, and falsely states that this supposed extortion plot was verified during Andersen’s trial.

Alan Alanson What are you & Barnett ‘TRAINED’ to do David Shurter??

David Shurter To recognize cult members such as yourself, who is showing how much i am NOT connected by to the cult by publishing every attack i have ever gone through with them but calling yourself a good guy at the same time. And showing your defense of members of your group who support and promote Hitler. But you claim i am cult but are going out of your way to show that im not by publishing every attack they have made in order to try and hurt me. You arent very bright concerning your argument. Again, in doing so you are also trying to assert you are a good guy.

David Shurter If i was cointel pro or cult, why have yhey constantly attacked me throughout the years- as you have so thoroughly shown?

David Shurter If i was cointel pro or cult, why have yhey constantly attacked me throughout the years- as you have so thoroughly shown?

Alan Alanson I FUCKING KNOW I’m A GOOD GUY… & I know what you are by your actions over on our page, I smelt you from our first convo re Satanism v Luciferianism…

Distracting BOLLOCKS…

Alan Alanson You contradictory talk of ‘We must focus on the children’ then do NOTHING BUT SLATE ABE & ELLA.. Not once drawing a line under the matter, then moving on, it was A & E continuously…

Alan Alanson Why are you defending the abusers? by helping them that would attack us…

David Shurter Well i don’t want to sit here watching you attack me with all of the cults stuff while claiming you are a good guy. Trying to trash me because you don’t agree with me by calling me all kinds of things im not and then showing how you are wrong and then continuing to have hissy fits cause it doesn’t work.

Alan Alanson Why did you share screen shots from people posting in a group that is secret? Why did you enable a site he says belongs to Lucerferians to have the names of people trying to get the Hampstead case investigated? Putting them in danger if your opinion of them is to be believed?

David Shurter Because i believe abe is cult. Ive said that over and over but you are so far up his butt you dont to hear it.

David Shurter Oh the conversation attacking me and promoting Hitler. I should take your crap and just be quiet about it. That is how the cult feels as well. Not much difference between the two of you.

Alan Alanson You believe???? you fucking idiot. or should I say well done, coz in that paragraph you have damaged the whole case.. with ya self-righteous, high n mighty opinion… I say well done because it is your remit to have that result eh?

Alan Alanson Why is your art shit?

Alan Alanson Why are you & Barnett tag teaming?

Alan Alanson Why did you & Barnett try to damage Sonya Vangelder?

Alan Alanson Why did she LIE about that Human flesh post?

Alan Alanson Why did you bail from our page?

David Shurter I didn’t bail from your page. Maria, who is your moderator and was in this mornings attack- removed me. Again- you are not victims. You attack- then when you get called out- you claim you are the victims and blame the person you attacked in the first place. And anyone can go to Fiona’s page or my blog and read what Sonya wrote her and what she did. Again- you are just mad we called her out. You guys think you can use any nasty tactic you want and wont be called out. And when you are- you make yourselves out to be the victims. Like blaming me for what your group said about Hitler. God help those children if people like you are trying to help them- cause they are totally doomed.

David Shurter Besides- why do I want to be involved with a group that is OBVIOUSLY rooting for the bad guys?

Alan Alanson Why did you attack Sonya Vangelder’? was it because of her opinion of Ted Gunderson & John DeCamp, that differs from your own Program…?

David Shurter Ummmm- she attacked Fiona- which EVEYRONE can see. I don’t trust Gunderson or DeCamp- and the fact that you all do show what side you are on.

Alan Alanson The only person apart from yourself to attack Gunderson was a woman whom was shown to wrong, if memory serves…

David Shurter Then you are an idiot.

David Shurter or a bad guy. I would go with bad guy myself.

Alan Alanson Considering you were so brutally abused as a child where do you get such high self-esteem… How come you can be so verbally abusive to folk, did the empathy get knock outta ya?

David Shurter i defended myself against abuse. What- was I suppose to run and hide when you guys attacked me? I could very well delete this post and all the crap in it but I am leaving it up so that people can see that you guys are using satanists crap to trash victims and show exactly what side you guys are on. And it aint the good guys.

David Shurter people can read the conversation for themselves- I posted it on my blog. Which is why you are going on and on with this rant in the first place.

Alan Alanson No my friend… I’m calling you for the the untold, intentional damage you have done to the Hampstead…

David Shurter so you guys promoting Hitler and saying how good he was is okay- but I am the bad guy when I let people know about the conversation? Interesting how that works.

David Shurter Posting all of the cults attacks against me is okay- but you want to assert that you are the good guys. I am bad because I defend myself. You attack- I respond- and then you call yourselves victims. Interesting.

Alan Alanson David… listen, it real simple…. You have created chaos on our page, INTENTIONALLY…. one or two called you out simple… you immediately go on the attack saying Araya ” you slept with K Arnet.. WTF is that all about, after she called you a twunt/cunt..

Because reference was made to Hitler by one or two in an argument… According to you now WE ARE ALL FUCKING HITLERITES you imbecile,

Can you see how you have exaggerated, accidentally on purpose??

You are calling us a Cult, when it is we who are trying to expose one… sort ya head out silly man, how folk have not got your flavor before now astounds me !

THAT’S IT, I’m here posting evidence of your suspect background which is quite telling really, this coming from a few sources…

Your programming has never been lifted has it Son? you are still dancing to their tune Brother…

Its never to late David Shurter, I know someone who works with those under their spells mate… Maybe now is the time to break it…

David Shurter You attacked me- i defended myself- your group declared your homophobic pro hitler stance- but i brought chaos? Now you have posred stuff wrotten solely by satanist Doug Mesner but claim your good and im bad. You guys screwed yourselves and want to blame me but want people to respect you. And now you are threatening me while asserting your victims. You are daft.

Rebekah Whyte David Shurter it’s time to grow up now and focus on healing yourself. Stop this freak show you have trapped yourself into before nobody ever aligns or listens to you again. You are only hurting yourself.

David Shurter You are acting just like the cult which shows who you are.

David Shurter Telling the truth is hurting me? I should just take your attacks and run away but if i show what you are doing, im the bad guy and you guys are victims. Interesting.

Rebekah Whyte David your programming is showing. This shit is meant to isolate victims and prevent unity. Can’t you see that?

David Shurter And what Fiona wrote about us doing what we are trained to do was done in a PRIVATE EMAIL so how did you guys get it? It was written to angela power disney who i blocked because i discovered she was working with the cult. We blew your cover and now you are threatening.

David Shurter Calling the cult out is not my programming. The fact that you argue this is suspect.

Rebekah Whyte You can suspect me all you want but I am not the one that got interviewed and chose to tell everyone to not trust victims cause they are whiny back stabbing babies.

Alan Alanson David… you say it in you blog brother…

David Shurter You guys are cult, arguing for the cult with everything the cult wrote and now want to say i am guilty for your actions. And i never said not to trust victims but said they are whiny and focused on themselves. Many people have found this to be true.

Rebekah Whyte How else do you think they heal? That is exactly what you need to do til you deprogram.

David Shurter and Alan Alanson i am NOT your brother.

Rebekah Whyte Eeew that’s masonic talk. Don’t call people brother Alan.

Alan Alanson lolz

Alan Alanson Bottom line here davy, you have expoed yourself as cointell Op, simples your the only one who can’t see it, we in our group know who & what were about, & as of today we know who & what your about…

You Have help the SATANIC… LUCIFERIANS who run Hoaxstead mate, You have gave them Intell on us… & you have damaged the case by Slating Abe & Ella.. SIMPLES…

Alan Alanson David… read this again & count up your accusations against mate..A few new ones..

David Shurter You attacked me- i defended myself- your group declared your homophobic pro hitler stance- but i brought chaos? Now you have posred stuff wrotten solely by satanist Doug Mesner but claim your good and im bad. You guys screwed yourselves and want to blame me but want people to respect you. And now you are threatening me while asserting your victims. You are daft.

David Shurter thanks for all of this. since you want your opinions out there- I again copied this conversation word for word and am going to post it on my blog. You guys are great!

Alan Alanson You can not help yourself can you?

David Shurter i dont seem to be having the issue with running off at the mouth and making myself out to be part of the cult. that is you and your little group. and no- you should have expected this.

Rebekah Whyte David Shurter you have officially proven you are the victim you hate so much.

David Shurter life is a bitch i guess. why- cause i wont run away from you guys attacking? that is what you want. for me to run away and stay silent.

Alan Alanson Crack on Son tis your funeral… No will ever trust you again.. you are finished as what ever you claim to be.. here in the UK & OZ… As I have many there that trust my judgement.. So fill ya boots Davy Boy, this ends one way…

David Shurter wow another threat and what way is that alan? cause judging by the numbers on my blog- which are off the roof today- you don’t have a clue what you are talking about.

Alan Alanson All you will do is FEED HOAXSTEAD… nothing more Davy Boy…

David Shurter no dude- YOU are feeding them.

David Shurter you and your homophobic pro Hitler stance. And threatening those who don’t agree with you.

Alan Alanson Threat ? again you exaggerate tis Your credibility, as what ever you claim to will cease to be…

David Shurter i simply know how to fight back and you obviously don’t like it. What- don’t you have more of the satanists crap to post? and you never answered my question. Which way do you think this is going to end?

Alan Alanson Which way do you think this is going to end?

The demise of your credibility

David Shurter all the stuff you have posted just shows the attacks I have endured throughout all of this. And you have no problem using satanists attacks against me. This is all old- and hasn’t screwed my credibility. In fact is shows the attacks I have gone through. First with them- now from you. For not being cult- you sure do like to use their stuff to attack.

David Shurter you do the cult proud dude- but I think you are aware of that already.

Alan Alanson Lies & exaggeration…. AGAIN

David Shurter i posted the last conversation verbatim- just like this one. How am I lying showing your own words? And I somehow controlling you to do what you are doing? wow- you give me way more power than i actually have. and this attack all started cause you are mad I outed all of you- just like I am about to do again.

Alan Alanson lozers… Outed what?

David Shurter lol- so you using all the satanists stuff- which only comes from Doug Mesner- makes you look like a good guy? You need to wake up. And the fact that you are homophobic pro Hitler- that is kinda weird. So you think people are just going to jump on your bandwagon and agree with the lot of you? Interesting.

Alan Alanson Two lies in one sentence Davy…

“And the fact that you are homophobic pro Hilter- that is kinda weird.”

David Shurter did you read the conversation this morning- the one you are defending throughout all of this? I am the bad guy cause I showed your group for what it is- and now here you are attacking me trying too get me to do whatever. But this attack shows you are defending the conversation this morning and trying to turn it against me. You are just to daft to understand that. so this conversation continues.

Alan Alanson Oh & exaggeration… two folk mention Hitler & WE’RE ALL HOMOPHOBES & HITLERITES… real nice Davy Boy. real nice .

David Shurter people can simply read the conversation for themselves. They don’t have to take my word for it. Which is why you are attacking me right now. Cause you don’t like that.

David Shurter https://davidshurter.com/?p=5529 These are Some of The Supporters Supporting Abe and Ella in the Secret Facebook Group H Res

David Shurter just so people can see for themselves.

Alan Alanson I don’t really need to expose you Son, you will undo yourself… showing the whole internet you methods & that you can not be trusted, by you informing on those who are trying to expose the very thing you claim were a victim of…

David Shurter so exposing the cult- like yourself – and showing conversation verbatim of what you all said- is going to hurt me. Standing against your little group and calling you out- that is going to hurt me. Never considering that it was YOU GUYS who said what you did. You obviously have no responsibility for your actions- I am just wrong for showing people what you are saying. And this makes sense to you does it?

David Shurter i think it does more to hurt YOUR credibility and that is why you are in here pitching fits.

Alan Alanson Did I partake in that convo? which you were happy to break confidences by making it Public, for our enemies to see & use against us?

Alan Alanson Do you now believe Hoaxstead to be right ?

David Shurter i dont trust them any more than I trust you actually. I think you are all on the same team.

Alan Alanson Oh my… who fucked up are you ?

Alan Alanson Are those Hampstead kids lying ? like, according to you…Abe is a Cult member?

David Shurter you actions speak loudly dude. and no- the kids aren’t lying. Doesn’t mean Abe isn’t. One doesn’t negate the other.

Alan Alanson So they must be lying… as Abe coached e’m eh?

David Shurter i have repeatedly said- interview after interview- that I don’t believe this is the case. But you don’t want to bring that up. You want it all black and white in order to try and bully me into submission. But I do think that if you aren’t cult- that you are ignorant. And this conversation is showing that over and over and over.

Alan Alanson So… If you believe the kids, you must know the damage you have done going after Abe & Ella, & giving ammo to those that are protecting the Cult of abusers. IE running like a little girl spilling private convo for all to see, can you not grasp that?

David Shurter ummm i believe Abe is playing for the bad side. And I have said that over and over. So no- I don’t believe this. In order to support the children I need to support Abe and Ella- even though one is not the same as the other. but this is the very philosophy that is being used to keep people submissive and going with the program. You are mad I won’t do it- so here you are.

Alan Alanson Even if I was severely beaten I would not go & inform on that person, you however get ya wrist slapped & you spill ya guts, can you see where I’m coming from David Shurter?

David Shurter ahhhhh- so if you attack me I should just stay quiet. Like you are doing right now. I should just stay silent about being abused and who abused me. How does that fit with your support of the kids? Should they have remained quiet as well?

Alan Alanson hahahahahaha.. you really are a knobhead… attacking you, no sir I’m calling you intell ass out in the cols air..

So no- I don’t believe this. In order to support the children I need to support Abe and Ella-

NO you ignore the fucking noise & concentrate on matters at hand, re them innocent children

David Shurter but stay silent if you have any misgivings. That is cult mentality. you should seek them out if you haven’t already- they would LOVE you.

Alan Alanson We all know how Abe & his misjudgements have tainted this case… But were not shouting it from the rooftops like your sorry ass is, we stick to what positive things can be done, & work on.

David Shurter yeah- the homophobic Pro Hitler argument showed that. Which is why you are in here bitching at me.

Alan Alanson And as for him doing jail, WTF does that have to do with this… I know folk who have done prison time & they’re the most trust wearthy folk i know…

David Shurter yeah- cause every felon should be trusted at his word. what exactly did put him in prison over and over and over?

Alan Alanson Davy, Davy Davy… I was NOT even in your expose arguement convo ffs.. So how can I be “yeah- the homophobic Pro Hitler argument showed that. Which is why you are in here bitching to me.”?

Alan Alanson Right I’v had enough of ya fkn horse shit for one night… go post this on ya blog.. I couldn’t give a toss mate…

David Shurter but you are in here defending it- mad that i published it. Which shows you have absolutely no issue as to what was said. A fact you are doing your best to deny- and yet here you are- all mad that i published it instead of going to the people who were in it and holding them responsible. they are okay- but I am the bad guy cause I let people see it. You want it to remain secret.

David Shurter thanks for permission- that helps.

David Shurter and obviously by this conversation- you care a whole lot more than you want to admit. I mean- you cared so much you posted everything the satanist Doug Mesner has ever written about me. Because you care that I outed you guys.

Alan Alanson Good nite David. watch out for ya demons…

David Shurter oh- don’t worry- I have my eye on all of you for sure.

Got attacked this morning by supporters of Ella ad Abe in a secret group about Hampstead on Facebook. If there is any question that the group supporting the children has been infiltrated- it has been removed after they went on and on supporting Hitler. But don’t take my word for it- read it for yourselves…

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Maria MacMahon
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Can we set a time limit to the Hoaxsted style posts about those perceived at least to be on the side of getting this case investigated? For days we have gone around in circles that have been both divisive and counter-productive they have gotten people down when we need be strong. The points being made about Abe have been covered by the BBC, Daily Mail, Ham and High, Victoria Derbyshire, Hoaxsted, Wideshit and so on and so on. Now in a few weeks the custody case will take place, has anybody got any positive ideas to highlight the children’s plight and bring the focus back to them?

Araya Soma Yes the focus seems to always go back to Abe, which has nothign to do with him, whatever he s done in the past , is not related to the children and he did what he did to get truth out of the kids, so anyone still steering focus onto him is defo not one of us

Maria MacMahon By the results of your labour you shall be known Araya and this group is sounding like Hoa xsted, not a group trying to form, a cohesive unit to get this case investigated, it’s like I’ve read most of these comments in the Daily Mail anyway.

David Shurter Good luck trying to take the focus off of abe and ella when that is their sole focus. It isnt about cannabis or mkulta or anything other than the children. Pointing this out isnt disinfo it is just stating the obvious. The focus should have been SOLELY on these children the whole time and needs to return there for this case to go forward. My focus has been on the children, but it hasnt been easy. You can read what abe and ella wrote about me on my blog. Their focus is SOLELY based on them and this weird cannabis thing which they admit themselves took precidence over the children for them in our interview.

Maria MacMahon Stop trying to push the MSM angle that this is drugs and not hemp seeds, you’re not stupid, many people have tried to explain it to you but you ignore it as though sticking to an alternative agenda. I don’t need your luck David because truth doesn’t rely on luck. If I wanted to know any of the things you have posted incessantly about in the last few days I’d recheck the Daily Mail stuff.

Maria MacMahon Whilst I have your attention stop dismissing all the people in this group because they have not suffered as you have. Lots of people in this group have given up relationships with people they love over this case they have given everything they can. They have made themselves visible to the cult recognisable it’s not a competition.

Araya Soma SORRY to bust ur bubble david, but cannabis is entertwined with this drama. As it reverses trauma for one. Its others and peeps like u that focus on Abe, and he certainly has the right to retaliate. The powers that shudnt be will not release the children unless a miracle happens, if they do the house of cards wuill come down, so they ll do all they can to brainwash them some more, and keep them, else the can of worms already opened will be empty

David Shurter So where are your official studies showing this? Or is this just your opinion? It should have been about the abuse not about cannabis.

Araya Soma The ONLY thign we need to focus on is to bring all those FUCKS pants down , that will do it. Err yes we know and have done our research on cannabis, you havent . IT IS THE ULTIMATE MEDICINE and THATS THE REASON WHY IT ILLEGAL U TWUNT

David Shurter Not where i live. And i hear you shagged kevin annet so excuse me if i dont completely respect your judgement.

Araya Soma LOLLOL, i ve never met him in my life u utter cunt

David Shurter Liar

David Shurter Wow such a vocabulary for someone claiming to be a shaman

Araya Soma David you are defo part of this cult , dont know why you re here talking shit , no i ve never met annet, i worked for him FROM the UK, he enver made it to the uK when wasmneat to meey him 2 years ago check your fucking facts

Popoola Essien I think David gets all his news from his mates at Hoaxted

Maria MacMahon You can’t call people a liar on the basis of gossip you heard David. Even if she had what sort of comment is that and how does it relate to getting the case investigated?????:??

David Shurter Same thing has been said about you poophead

Araya Soma I diont claim to be a shaman, WHERE ???? and for someone who claims to have been abused , seems to me you desreve it by sound sof it

David Shurter So you guys can attack but if i defend myself i am the bad guy? Interesting

Araya Soma go back and suck cock elsewhere

Popoola Essien I never shagged Kevin Annet grin emoticon

Maria MacMahon Me neither.

David Shurter Wow you are a piece of work araya. Bet you are a blast at parties. Lol

Maria MacMahon She’s really good company. A nice, kind, bubbly lady.

David Shurter Yeah i can see that. Not someone you want to take home to meet the parents obviously.

Araya Soma me neither gross, last time he came here was 2011, never heard of him til 2013. david just go back suck cock and go back to your abusers at hoaxted.com

David Shurter Never said you did poophead but i am not the only one who thinks you are working for the bad guys

Araya Soma I dont care what anyone thinks u twunt

David Shurter Why when it is just as easy to sit here and listen to you attempt to abuse me

Araya Soma If u fucked offf, then no one wud abuse u u utter cunt

David Shurter Language. What an uneducated vulgar bitch you are. Lol

Araya Soma U obviously LOVE it

Araya Soma Keep coming back for more

David Shurter And you obviously love to abuse

Popoola Essien Araya, David is in his element now. He feeds off the negativity. I would leave it.

Araya Soma it takes TWO to tango mate

David Shurter Like i give a fuck what a slut like you has to say

Araya Soma Yes he loves to be abused

David Shurter Yeah it does.

David Shurter And you guys love to abuse

Araya Soma cunt dickhead bastard sick dumb fuck

Popoola Essien lol

David Shurter And blame the one you are abusing

David Shurter Well a stupid cunt like you would know

Araya Soma Yes i blame u , u love being abused, if u didnt ,u wud have not come onto this thread knowing u d be abused now fuck off dickhead

David Shurter Like a cunt like you is gonna tell me what to do. Lol

David Shurter Cold day in hell

Maria MacMahon I don’t like this kind of insulting talk normally but boy David have you dished it out to a lot of people recently some of the women you have called vile names are upset about it so perhaps there is a lesson you need to learn and this may teach it to you.

David Shurter Well i figured out awhile ago maria that you will never take my side or agree with anything i say. No worries just pointing it out.

Araya Soma Blah balah, blah , u are a liar on top of thta. Kevin annett ???? Really, i ve been married for 20 years and have never met him, he also likes to suck cock maybe u two shud get it together

David Shurter Who other than today in this conversation?

Maria MacMahon You liar I have supported you all the way even when I didn’t agree with you I just kept quiet.

David Shurter If you dont know him how do you know he likes to suck cock?

Araya Soma Maria, this vile cunt is defo one of them disgusing as a poor me me me who se been abused, all BS

Maria MacMahon Clearly Araya.

David Shurter Yeah i can see that

Araya Soma Oh i have friends in CANADA u twunt !

David Shurter What you dont like araya is that i fight back

David Shurter They as foulmouthed as you?

David Shurter Bet you get removed from alor of public places

Araya Soma No , i know who you are , its pretty obvious u like to be abused in every which way, just skype kevin annett, he d love to abuse you too

Araya Soma This vile cunt is takign the focus away as usual from what needs to be done why is fucking JACOB FARMER NOT removing him !

Maria MacMahon David somebody asked me to ask ‘Are you Fiona’s handler’? I did tell them as far as I knew you only encountered her a week or so ago but he/she desperately wants me to ask.

David Shurter No i am not a handler nor am i disinfo. I have been at this for years before hampstead was even a case before those children were even born

Maria MacMahon Thanks for answering.

David Shurter Fiona is too strong for a handler. But anyone who disagrees with this group is either disinfo or a handler as far as many of you are concerned

Maria MacMahon Stick to facts David don’t make blanket statements about this group. It is an areas where these questions will pop up.

Maria MacMahon ‘A comment via Fiona’s page yday,… ‘Fiona Barnett Indeed it is. David & I are taking an unprecedented stand. We are exposing the highly complicated, intricate tactics these VIP Luciferian pedos use. Nothing is as simple as people have previously been led to believe. We’re naming names & talking specifics. We’re doing exactly what we were trained to do.’ What does ‘We’re doing exactly what we were trained to do.’ mean?

David Shurter My position in trying to expose this is well established for over 12 years now publicly. That is why people esp survivors listen to me. That is what is pissing some of you off actually. Cause people are listening to me and finding sense in what i am saying. Some of you obviously don’t like it.

Maria MacMahon Not true subjective not fact.

David Shurter We are working together yes. Why cant survivors work together and support each other? That is bad?

Maria MacMahon No again you deviate I clearly wrote the question was about the phrase ‘Trained to do’

David Shurter We both were trained in the cult yes. What is your point?

Maria MacMahon You got the point that’s why you responded.

David Shurter Why jump to the conclusion i am her handler? Why not ask if she is mine? Or is this about teying to passive aggressively try to undermine my credibility?

Maria MacMahon Look I don’t know as I said the question was passed to me by someone who didn’t feel up to perhaps being called a cunt or worse.

David Shurter I wrote specifically in my book years ago i was trained by the cult. I talked extensively about it in my book and on my blog.

Maria MacMahon You surely have to see how Fiona writing this could raise a flag or two ‘Nothing is as simple as people have previously been led to believe. We’re naming names & talking specifics. We’re doing exactly what we were trained to do.’

Araya Soma Nuffin credible abt david. He s one of them directing his egoistic self back unto him, all me me me , people listen to me WHO does , idiots maybe who dont know arse from elbow, anyone with an ego like him, is one of them , they are ALL ruled by ego , he s still with the cult, tryin to do damage control, when we dont give a shit abt him, only to rescue all the children infected by this primal ego bullshit

David Shurter This question came as an attack on fiona yesterday. She told me about it this morning. And other than araya who started calling me vulger names show me even one time i have called someone a cunt or anything other than an idiot. Xause you cant. It is bullshit.

David Shurter Lol araya you dont have a clue what you are talking about. Best stick to vulgarity. It is what you are best at.

Araya Soma No better than your complete lying egoistic bullshite

David Shurter And yeah i have an ego. Everyone does. And it has helped keep me alive and sane. But i dont expect you too understand sanity

David Shurter What have i lied about? You are just like the cult in that you offer a lot of insults but no facts.

Araya Soma You lie abt everyhting, who you are , kevin annett, etc, go back to what u do best, fuck yourslef and suck cock

David Shurter lol- wow- those certainly are not facts. and just because you deny you screwed Kevin Annet doesnt mean i am lying- oh shaman that you claim to be. Lol

Araya Soma show me where i claim to be a shaman, and where did i meet kevin annett ?? in my worse nightmare is only place i ever met him ,u twunt. He s not been in uk since 2011 and i have not been out of Uk since 2008 . You the one who needs to check fatcs, and if u can lie abt all that what else ure lyign abt. In fact come to glastonbury, where i was menat with hundreds of others, menat to meet annett, who neve rmade it to the uk u twunt, and fatc u love being abused and reverse everyhitn onto me, Abe being bad, and u being good when u are clearly a liar cock sucker and part of this cult i wonder ewhy ure in this group u shud be with ur pals at hoaxted.com and go fuck yourlsef since no one else will unless u pay for it, or get an abuser to do it, and since u seem to think u know so much abt me, shows u ve been spying and are well in with this cult !

Maria MacMahon This group has gone from focusing on trying to get the case investigated into ‘The David Shurter slag of Abe and Ella show’ with an after show of attack anyone who doesn’t agree with me. Seig heil.

Araya Soma Bring back Hitler, he d know what to do with cunts like him heil !

David Shurter that is because I don’t believe Abe and Ella and that pisses some of you off. Too fucking bad really.

David Shurter oh- so now you are promoting Nazi’s. wow- you are enlightened

Maria MacMahon So silly.

David Shurter Promoting Hitler isnt silly it is fucking sick

Maria MacMahon You’re silly, but you knew that really anyway.

David Shurter funny this group acts like a pack of rabid dogs and acts JUST LIKE the cult

David Shurter funny how that works

Araya Soma Theres nothign to beleive u ego twunt, u either know or you dont, and clearly YOU DONT ! No u twunt, Hitler was the good guy, u ve been brainwashed toi think different bombarded with lies, shows ur lack of intelligence

David Shurter wow- you really are a sick fuck. i think most of the world would disagree with you.

Araya Soma only stupid cunts like you beleive everyhtign governemt tells you u sick bastard

David Shurter and only stupid cunts act like you promoting Hitler- just like the cult

Araya Soma Dont expect any egoistic bastard to know lies from truth, david is part of the cult, we know, we re not stupid cunts liek you

David Shurter but the cult believes in Hitler as well- you would be in good company with them

David Shurter you go on and on promoting Hitler but I am in the cult- interesting

Araya Soma No they dont theyre all jewish cunts

David Shurter but look at it this way- you could always be a nazi whore

Araya Soma Where did i say they only killed jews, there was a war on , anyhtign goes in war u complete fucktard

David Shurter well- again- you lost your chance to be a Nazi whore

David Shurter I am sure you would have enjoyed it

Araya Soma i still do !

David Shurter But the fact that this group is promoting Hitler is something i definitely need to talk about on my blog. I think people will find it interesting that you are the people supporting Abe and Ella

Araya Soma Good its t time to bring the truth abt hitler as far and wide as poss, but i dint expect u to tell the truth, just regurgitating the mind control governmet/cult bullshit, exactly what hitler wnated to do and DID remove those parasites from germany HEIL !!!!!

David Shurter wow- just like the cult. they believe in Hitler as well

Araya Soma No they dont u complete lying twunt ! what a fu king liar u are, HITLER removed that evil cult from germany, hence why they went to war with him, since they are in every other government rukling us u complet fucktard ! u re complete dumb ass, no youre one of them thats why u soread lies and egoistic bullshit, its all abt me me me david the fucktard

Maria MacMahon Queue David writing a piece saying we are a cult ‘amirite?

David Shurter sorry- it took me a minute to copy this conversation- i am going to publish it word for word on my blog. Thanks.

Maria MacMahon No problem with you sharing anything I say, feel a bit of injustice is heading our way because you don’t see your opinion as opinion.

Popoola Essien Your friends at Hoaxted will love it. Well done.

David Shurter i think it is important to show exactly who supports and Abe and Ella and exactly what you believe. Esp. concerning Hitler- which you started Maria. and yeah poophead- they will love it. Shows just what kind of people are supporting them- and it is all going to be in your own words.

Roy Hull Elder So; from supporting the Hampstead children we go by way of vile abuse and glorifying the death of people ( Jews and others ) in war to supporting Hitler!!! David wins. Best wishes Roy

Popoola Essien You like your little threats. You are supporting the cult as you “have been trained to do”.

David Shurter funny- i wasnt looking to win anything. and you guys are not victims in any of this. I am helping survivors being trained as I was. I am not helping the cult. Nor am I promoting Hiltler- that was all of you.

Maria MacMahon Whatever, so some anonymous people on the Internet, gullible people will believe your malicious lies about me, I have enough people in my life who know I am a decent person.

David Shurter Maria- it was your own words. no one typed them for you- any of you.

David Shurter oh and it wasn’t me who said Fiona and I are doing what we were trained to do- that was Fiona.

David Shurter and it wasn’t a threat- it is a fact. that is why we are making the progress we are.

Popoola Essien “WOW- Hoaxstead actually mentioned my name.” – proud are we?

David Shurter well you are working in conjunction with them so you tell me. obviously — since another victim came forward talking about you saying how you interrogated her and she felt threatened by you.

Maria MacMahon It was used to describe your behaviour and your expectation/demand from others to conform and agree with you, as well you know. Shills do that, take a little nothing and create a huge distraction.

David Shurter so this conversation and everything that was said by you guys promoting Hitler is my fault? what- am I standing over you with a gun to your head telling you what to type and how to respond?

Maria MacMahon Had I wanted to say what you wrote I am more than capable, I meant what I wrote, not what you chose to paraphrase it as.

David Shurter i am copying this conversation word for word. people wont have to take my paraphrasing. they can see what you said for themselves.

Maria MacMahon Good.

David Shurter cool- i am glad we are in agreement.

Maria MacMahon I do think you are bang out of order for sharing people’s posts that they have posted in a private/secret group. things that they shared because this is not public information. Betraying them.

David Shurter are you more upset with that- or the fact that you guys are supporting Hitler and showing your true colors?

Maria MacMahon How can we have someone in a secret group who is sharing out information in a way that gives Hoa x sted easy access to what we do? Jacob?

Popoola Essien And serving it up to your friends at Hoaxted. Nice.

David Shurter well- maybe you should keep your ugly thoughts to yourselves if you dont want people to know about it. but showing this shows who Abe and Ella’s supporters are- and I think it is important for people to see.

Popoola Essien If that is not the definition of infiltration, I don’t know what is.

David Shurter well if anyone knows about infiltration it would be you poophead.

David Shurter what are you guys mad about? that I am going to show people what you said?

David Shurter why be so coy letting others know?

Maria MacMahon Come join a secret group to get the Hampstead case investigated oh and by the way there is no anonymity because someone will share your comments and they will appear on Hoax s ted!

David Shurter the cult likes to remain in secret as well. and you guys attacked me and put your crap up. I am just exposing it. Word for word- and you guys already said it was okay.

Maria MacMahon You were trusted to join a secret group and you blabbed untrustworthy and lacking integrity.

David Shurter so you don’t want anyone to know that you support Hitler and think he is a great guy?

Maria MacMahon If we had wanted this public we wouldn’t have made it secret, it was not your decision to make to share what people wrote here in confidence. Despicable, you expose people who choice to remain in the background fore their own reasons.

David Shurter well judging by todays conversation- it is pretty obvious why you want it to be secret.

Afterwards- Maria- who is an administrator- removed me from the group. Just as well- I always felt like I needed to take a shower after going to it anyway. But these are the types of people who are the BIGGEST supporters of Abe. I just felt that people should see and judge for themselves.

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Oh- and this was the pleasant exchange I had with Abe (the repeated felon boyfriend of the Hampstead mother) this morning….

hampsteadcoverup@gmail.com
5:33 AM (2 hours ago)
to me

Well done, David!

… Giving up sodomy. That’s how your abusers kept you bonded and control you. Keeping you in low vibration/consciousness.
With God’s blessings.

David Shurter
6:47 AM (1 hour ago)
to Hampstead

lol- for someone who has been in and out of jail all of his life- the fact that you are talking about low vibrations/ consciousess is amazing. Considering what probably happened to you in prison- i am not sure you are a good one talking about sodomy.
Blessings back to you.