I am posting the conversation by hand as well as putting screen shots of it on this post- since some have told me that the screen shots aren’t coming up when they click them. They work fine for me- but games are afoot- and so they aren’t working for everyone and I felt this conversation needed to be seen.

pookster78 5 hours ago
+David Shurter
David, you chose to comment on your blog about this, and specifically the recording. You have carried out interviews with Abe and Ella, even setting up another interview for them. Now you are getting in a tizzy because I asked a few questions. You put yourself out there.
I couldn’t comment on your blog so when I seen you here I took the opportunity. This “oh but this video isn’t on the topic” excuse, is one of the lamest excuses I have encountered on the internet….and I argued with a guy who likes to fuck his dog. The reason you have resorted to the government troll ‘shill card’ is because you don’t know any answers, and have just blindly believed whatever you have read on the internet. You are a common gossip.Post away, but let me remind you at this point that I did try warn you of people deliberately or accidentally duping you.
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David Shurter 22 minutes ago (edited)
+pookster78 Mr. Alan Crawford says; “let me remind you at this point that I did try warn you of people deliberately or accidentally duping you.” So now you are trying to play the role of my protector and savior? (Give me a minute cause I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit). Thanks but really- NO THANKS. Not AT ALL interested. Yes, I did help Ella and Abe at the beginning- I sure did. But the reason I wasn’t on that interview with Ed Opperman is because I backed out due to the fact that I believed that they weren’t telling the truth. Which I have inequitably stated numerous times- both on my blog and elsewhere on social media. Not saying AT ALL that I disbelieve the children however. It is true that I have put myself out there- I agree- but unfortunately- I don’t feel that I owe YOU or ANYBODY anything. Ask all you want- but if I don’t feel compelled to answer- that is my choice. Besides- I have never met Hollie Grieg, have never been to Scotland- and I am not in any way officiated with any official investigation- so why you would ask me- for any other reason than being manipulative- is beyond me.

And no- I have no intention of opening up my blog and allowing it to become the free for all YouTube has. i pay for it- it is mine- and so therefore it is MY choice. Despite what you might feel or believe. But if you read what I posted yesterday- which was our conversation- I didn’t say you WERE a government shill. I asked others to read it and figure out what they thought. Do I think you could be- ABSOLUTELY. Like I said- the US, the UK, and Australia are now all coming under fire for hiding, aiding, and abetting a huge, organized, and well-funded child abuse and pedophile trafficking ring- and to think they aren’t trying to influence the conversation is silly. Some of you fighting against all of this could very well be government shills. What everyone knows at this point is that every one of you are denying it. Esp. you. But hey- whatever.

Lastly- it doesn’t surprise me that you have surrounded yourselves with degenerates. Child abusers- men screwing their animals- there is really nothing about you that would surprise me at this point. You are a unique individual. Surely that is true. But saying “This “oh but this video isn’t on the topic” excuse, is one of the lamest
excuses I have encountered on the internet….and I argued with a guy who likes to fuck his dog” shows me that you aren’t a very good judge of things- esp. character. If me declining to answer your questions that I feel are being asked as a manipulation- and you find that the lamest excuse you have ever heard- then I suggest you start to listen to YOURSELF and what YOU say- cause that FAR EXCEEDS anything I could come up with. That is just my opinion anyway.

So thanks for wanting to “save me”; but really- I have no need nor ANY desire for your help or your company in any way. Best for you to stick with child abusers and people who have sex with their pets. They might want you- but ME- I don’t BY ANY STRETCH OF THE IMAGINATION.
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/real-life/children-scotland-been-filmed-being-4597107

http://news.stv.tv/east-central/265663-edinburgh-man-faces-34-abuse-charges-at-swaylands-school-in-kent/

http://holliedemandsjustice.org/content/police-intelligence-reveals-the-truth-about-denis-mackie/

At least in America- all of us are aware that the government is paying people to troll whoever online. I think the conversation you are about to read is how the UK is doing it as well. Are these people government paid trolls? I can’t say for certain. But considering that the UK, the US, and Australia are ALL coming under fire for hiding, aiding, and abetting an large, organized, and well-funded child abuse and pedo sex trafficking ring- all of us can just assume that they are doing what they can to make all of this disappear. That ESP. means attacking those who are doing their best to point all of this out- like Fiona Barnett and myself. So could some of these people be paid trolls? I think it is pretty safe to assume that several of them most definitely are- and the only thing that they offer as a response to deny this is their “word”. They aren’t because they say they aren’t. But again- take a gander at the conversations- and judge for yourselves…

Just a break in this- here is an example of the damage that Fiona Barnett has done in Australia. This is a screen shot from the Royal Commissioners Facebook page…

Anyway, moving on…

I woke again to ANOTHER “attack” on YouTube and wanted to take the time to show it and talk about it and I will show the comment in the end. I find it highly suspect that this Hoaxtead group (who stands in direct opposition to the Hampstead child abuse claims in the UK- thus the name) seem to live on YouTube and any other social media that they can garner to get their claims out that every child who comes forward claiming ritual abuse is either a liar- or their parents are. (That was the jest of this comment left for me this morning). Most individuals who watch videos on YouTube cannot even be bothered to click the thumbs up or down- but THIS group- they LIVE on YouTube- leaving constant, daily remarks trying to discredit the children, the parents, and me. They even went so far as to search for an obscure video I did about 8 or 9 years ago and only had it on ONE site (it was a CNN affiliated site), and in turn made their own video with it- doing their best to discredit me. What normal individual does this? To me- this shows that they have an objective, and that this video is evidence of how focused they are at making all of these child abuse cases go away.

With regards to the Hampstead children being filmed before Abraham Christie- the repeated ex-felon boyfriend, who filmed them and put it on YouTube- this is why they are upset. It is their contention that Abe feed these children drugs, beat and tortured them, and forced them to make the videos they did- telling them what to say and forcing them to say it. This group DOES NOT WANT anyone to think that these children were filmed first by anyone else- because this puts this whole theory in serious jeopardy. If they were already talking- and being filmed- by someone else- then this theory falls apart, and this is what they have solely focused on in their attacks. I can’t answer this person’s questions because I simply do not know the answers. What I do know is that I was told- by an incredibly reliable source- that they HAD spoken with someone else PRIOR to Abe- and that he HAD filmed their conversations. It seems this group doesn’t want anyone to know about this- and thus they do their best to ask all sorts of questions in hopes that they will discredit me. However, I am doing MANY things- and contrary to what this little Hoaxtead group may assert- they are not the center of the world and the world certainly does not revolve around them.

The next part- this part about “HG”- well- just calling an abused child by her initials is suspect. They know her name- OBVIOUSLY- since they seem to know A LOT about her case, but refuse to say it. Why? Simply because they don’t want anyone going from their conversation and googling Hollie Greig to read what REALLY happened. What do they assert? Well, the doctors were inept in saying she had an STD and have no clue what they are talking about. As far as the case itself? Well, it NEVER HAPPENED. The mother is of course LYING- as are ALL the parents who have come forward claiming the same types of abuse with their children. Hollie’s mother is a liar, she is vindictive, and she is just trying to use her child to hurt innocent people. It is like a carbon copy of what has been said about the majority of the 1000’s, if not 100,000’s of cases, where children and parents have come forward. This is, by far, NOT an original argument, and is just the same type of shit that is ALWAYS offered in order to try and discredit the parents. I am surprised that they didn’t say that Hollie and her mother were influenced to say all of what they have because they read a book somewhere down the line- as this is ALSO a major argument used with those who would like to discredit these types of abuse claims. But again- Holly didn’t get abused according to these people. Her vindictive evil mother just TOLD her that she was abused so that she could “get back” at people she has a grudge with. If you ask me- there are WAY more effective and MUCH LESS CONTROVERSIAL methods of doing this- but Holly’s mom- if these people were asked- would be determined as stupid as well. I am sure that will be part of their next CONTINUALLY ONGOING argument.

In reading this tripe this morning, it occurred to me that this “pookster 78” person seems to have spent a great deal of thought on- not only the Hampstead case, but also the Hollie Grieg case, as well. They don’t sound like a normal lay person to me. So could this Hoaxtead group actually BE a part of the pedophile cult that so many people are trying to expose? Although they would scream and yell otherwise- honestly it SIMPLY CANNOT BE RULED OUT. The only indication that anyone has that they aren’t is just the fact that they claim they are not. Otherwise- there is no concrete evidence that says that they definitely aren’t. They certainly are waging quite the social media campaign against it. I am a perfect example of that. Whatever the case may be- it is pretty obvious that this group isn’t just one comprised of concerned citizens who just seemed to find an interest in the case. We all have become interested in one thing or another in our lives- but how many of us have lived on the internet and waged a large and concerted campaign on social media because of it? That not only encompasses ONE case- but ALL of them. And what is it that they are saying? That all of these cases are lies, the parents are unbalanced, vindictive, and manipulative and every child who says that they have been abused is either being told to do so by their parents- or they are just simply liars themselves.- EVERY ONE- in EVERY CASE- that has ANYTHING to do with ritual abuse.

This Hoaxtead group says that there is no proof of a large, organized pedophile child abuse and trafficking ring. However, the whole world knows now that the UK COVERED UP ALL OF THESE TYPES OF ALLEGATIONS in the 80’s. We know this for certain. Now evidence has come to light that Judge James Wood- in Australia, who was head of and RUNNING the Woodrow Commission dealing with their same types of accusations, has been called out as an involved pedophile HIMSELF by some of the victims. So Australia is now on the verge of realizing that the same type of cover up that we all know for certain happened in the UK- ALSO happened in Australia. So to claim that there is NO PROOF of any of this, that this huge group of elite pedophiles doesn’t exist because they investigated themselves and told everyone else that they didn’t exist- is ridiculous. It flies against the FACTS that we all now KNOW TO BE TRUE. The time has come where society cannot be led by the nose of this little group who is asserting that, contrary to what we all know to be facts, these type of allegations are all lies and that there is absolutely no reason to think about any of this any further. Despite the fact that SO MANY PEOPLE- from ALL OVER THE GLOBE- have come forward claiming otherwise- and not because they read a book somewhere along the line- or read something online at some point or another- but because they EXPERIENCED it themselves PERSONALLY. And the fact is- when they came forward to tell, they- and all of their allegations, were covered up. Which AGAIN begs the question- if these myriads of claims were all based on lies, why did those involved- who were high up in government- feel the need to cover them up in the first place? That is the question we ALL need to be asking ourselves, instead of being lead around by a group of “know it alls” who are WAY more invested in all of this than they would like to admit.

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Like I said- this group of people are on YouTube- EVERY DAY and CONSTANTLY. Here is THIS MORNINGS conversation after I posted what I did… ( and as far as attacks go, this conversation is taking place in the comments section of a video that was MADE and UPLOADED as nothing more than an attack on me, so to claim what has followed ISN’t an attack is disingenuous at BEST.)

Davidshurter.com/?page_id=5759

First it was Aleister Crowley’ s old house. Now M’s Pub- in the Old Market area in Omaha which was a favorite hang out of the cult- who had a review written by Peter Citron hanging on it’s walls, has burned to the ground. Seems my dear friend, who just recently died and is now on the other side- who LOVED thinking about burning things down when he was alive on this side, is incredibly busy. I wonder what he will burn down next. LOL.

Yes, you are seeing this correctly. In this video I have tin foil covering my ears. At the very beginning of my invetigation into Franklin Credit and my family- I got inundated with with electronic microwave weapons. This has happened a few times. This was my first time, and this happened years ago- as you can see I was much, MUCH, younger.

The first time this happened it prevented me from sleeping for three weeks. This video is proof what it does to a person. I was extremely exhausted and so damn desperate- that I would have shoved the tin foil in my ears or any place I could to stop being attacked. (Just to let you all know- tin foil DOESN’T work to stop the crap).

The second time I got hit was the day after I sent my manuscript to my publisher. I heard and felt it go on the next day around two o’clock in the afternoon. This time it lasted two weeks- and I decided to go to the hospital- but before I went, I decided to upload my enitire book onto my blog. This was a brilliant move on my part.

I went to the hospital- and was fine getting checked in- until an hour and twenty minutes later- when I heard and felt it go on all over again. I laid in the waiting room for 45 minutes- being able to do nothing but let it wash over me. When they came and got me to take me too my room- I told them I didn’t feel well. They decided to take my blood pressure- and right after I found myself being rushed by rescue squad to Creighton Medical due to being well over the limit with my blood pressure and was way over what is considered heart attack or stroke level.

I spent three days in Creighton Medical with them performing all sorts of tests on me as they were unable to determine why, although I came in with incredibly high blood pressure- I had gone back to BETTER THAN NORMAL blood pressure afterwards- and had mantained that the whole time I was there. I had them send me everyone- doctors, nurses, therapists, and social workers- so that I could explain to them that this was being done to me because of what I was involved with investigating. And I refered them to my book the entire time- which was on my blog.

Afterwards- I was too afraid to go back home- so I decided to go back to Lasting Hope after Creighton discharged me. The week I was there- I did exactly the same thing. Told everyone and referred them to my blog so that they could read my book. Later on- after I published Rabbit Hole- A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story- I went back to take someone my book- and ran into the head nurse that had worked on my floor. She asked for two books- one for herself, and one for my doctor- so that she could leave a copy on his desk. She felt this was important because they have had SO MANY OTHERS come in claiming many of the things concerning the same sort of stuff I had. So the PROFESSIONALS that dealt with me- THEY ALL BELIEVED ME.

Releasing this video is just another attempt to prevent people from listening to me. It says “DON’T LISTEN TO HIM- LOOK- HE IS CRAZY.” Again- this is disingenuous. People who have experienced the stuff I have may LOOK crazy- but that doesn’t mean that they aren’t telling the truth. But this group had to search HARD to find this video- and then used it to make one of their own. Full of commentary. This was done in a desperate attempt to prevent others from listening to what I have been saying for well over a decade. This video that they have presented- happened YEARS ago- when I first got involved. But this is a perfect example of how they have been stalking me and using whatever they can to try and prevent me from being listened too.

For those of you who question that the weapons that I speak about exist- here are the patents to some of them- so that you can see for yourselves that YES they truly do indeed exist- and the MYRIADS of people who are complaining about being harassed with them- although they may seem crazy at first- are MOST DEFINITELY telling the truth…

USP# 6,488,617 (12/03/2002) A method and device for producing desired brain states.

USP# 6,239,705 (05/29/2001) Intra oral electronic tracking device

USP# 6,091,994 (07/18/2000) Pulsating manipulation of nervous systems.

USP# 6,052,336 (04/18/2000) Apparatus and method of broadcasting audible sound using ultrasonic sound as a carrier.

USP# 5,539,705 (07/23/1996) Ultrasonic speech translator and communication system for converting radio frequencies and audio signals to the human mind.

USP# 5,507,291 (04/16/1996) Method of manipulating associated persons emotional state remotely.

USP# 5,159,703 (10/27/1992) Silent subliminal presentation system (Look up Silent Sound Spread Spectrum on YouTube)

USP# 5,017,143 (05/21/1991) Method and apparatus for producing subliminal images- causing hallucinations

USP# 4,877,027 (10/31/1989) Remote hearing system

USP# 3,951,135 (04/20/1976) Apparatus and method for remotely monitoring and alternating brain waves

USP# 6,506,148 (01/14/2003) Manipulation by electromagnetic fields from monitors.

MAKE SURE YOU READ THE COMMENTS BELOW THIS VIDEO ON YOUTUBE, as although they are kind of pathetic, THEY SERVE TO SHOW WHAT THE KINDS OF PEOPLE WHO NOT ONLY POSTED THIS VIDEO ARE LIKE, but also, WHAT THE PEOPLE SUPPORTING THIS VIDEO, are like as individuals!

One last thing. Reading Hoaxtead today- i never said you idiots were the cause. The world is MUCH BIGGER than Hampstead and, although it comes as quite a shocker- the world doesn’t revolve and you and all of your bullshit. Lol. And you all claim MY ego is big. Lmfao.

https://holliegreigjustice.wordpress.com/2015/12/06/first-minister-alec-salmond-breaks-the-law-with-regard-to-the-hollie-greig-foi-no-way/