I believe that there are several reasons that the media is beginning, once again, to bring up this story. One, it is around the 30 year anniversary of the abduction of Johnny Gosch. Then you have the whole other first milk carton boy’s abduction and murder solved- as Etan Patz was one of two boys displayed on the American’s milk cartons- Johnny Gosch being the other. However, it is the third reason that I would like to discuss in this post.
There is a concerted effort, in my opinion, to close me down with everything that I am speaking about concerning Omaha NE and the events that happened here which surrounded people involved in the failed savings and loan Franklin Credit. As such, I am not surprised that our national media is once again running with the Gosch story.
These are just a few details that I wonder if they will add, since I have a different perspective than most with all of this. Will MSNBC report that Noreen Gosch believes that her husband sold their son, and was dealing with people in Omaha who were involved with child prostitution, like she has told people? Will Noreen relate the story in which a double was supposedly to have taken her place with her husband at the time- prompting Noreen to go on a tirade with posts entitled over and over “Will the Real Noreen Gosch Please Stand Up”? I guess John DeCamp and his office swears this story is true, since these events happened SOLELY at his office. Will it come up that this abducted child somehow was converted to join his captures, left to live even though he was a person who could break ALL this apart when everyone else was murdered? Will the reporters for MSNBC explain how Johnny Gosch has been able to live in hiding for 30 years with NO ONE SEEING HIM, MEETING HIM, OR HELPING HIM AS AN ADULT, other than his mother- as no one in thirty years has come forward to explain how this has been possible? (Unless of course you believe that Johnny Gosch is Jeff Gannon- the George Bush White House media correspondent prostitute who came out of nowhere who, even today, has yet to explain how such a person got credentials to have such an up close and personal relationship with the Bush White House. Will this be part of the story)? Will they explain where Johnny Gosch went off to after meeting his mother at her house at the age of 27, when he told of dark encounters full of tales of CIA espionage and child trafficking rings to his mother? Or are they going to report the same, sugar coated, makes no sense bull that has been offered for the past thirty years?
We, I am sure, will all tune in to find out what they have to say on Sunday- as maybe they will answer a Christmas wish and we all will finally get a chance to understand this story, and why an abduction that occurred in West Des Moines, IA has taken precedence over the events that occurred in anther town in another state that was well over two hours away. Will they offer Paul Bonnaci and his stories to the picture, which is the SOLE connection to Johnny Gosch and the Franklin Credit Scandal? Maybe- we will have to wait and see. I, myself, will be on pins and needles with anticipation.
Fiction is Fiction (The entire literary world)
Date: 2012-12-11, 4:16PM CST
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There were no doubt victims.
Sharter was not one of them.
His poor family has had to endure the accusations for a long time.
I would know!
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My reply…
This explains the obsession this person has with me. By their own admission- they are connected to my family. This is why I am being trashed as much as I am on the internet.
My family was involved- not in Franklin- but in the events way before- in the form of being child abductors and cult members. They have NOT had to deal with anything- but have gone after me with letter after letter to try and close me down. Someone made a three o’clock visit to one of my book sellers to threaten them from helping me, and I have been harassed non stop by my stepmother Joanne C Shurter and her cousin/lawyer Gerald Friedricksen. In the last year- supposedly scared for her life- she has done nothing but attack me over and over to try and shut me up, while hiding behind a protection order.
I do not feel sorry for my family. They are child killers and I have no sympathy for their plight in life.
Then this got published…
Fiction is Fiction (The entire literary world)
Date: 2012-12-11, 5:01PM CST
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I don’t know them David…
But…
I knew you!
And I know the truth about you, and all those holes you refuse to fill.
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AND SO I REPLIED…
Fiction is Fiction
Date: 2012-12-11, 5:08PM CST
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Hmmmm- I highly doubt that. We obviously aren’t friends- and knowing about me is not the same thing as knowing me.
What holes are in my work? You attack me personally but never bring up what you disagree about what I have written.
Now you talk about my family- and then say that you know me. I think you are a liar.
Besides- anyone who knows me knows I haven’t had anything to do with my family for about 20 yrs now. Ever since I was an adult.
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Date: 2012-12-11, 8:51AM CST
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David, you are a moron. You spend your time on here responding to every little post about you. Go away if it isn’t important. In your spirochete infected mind, you don’t see how little credibility you have and your constant whining here only undermines it further. Maybe “the professionals” in your life can explain it to you.
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And my reply…
Date: 2012-12-11, 9:08AM CST
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I am certainly not a victim- and you are right- I do feel compelled to defend myself when it is necessary. The reason why I come in here every once in awhile is because it works. People ARE interested- esp. considering the emails I have received from what I am doing. Stating my case is hardly whining- just because a few of you would rather CL be about the usual drivel that it is, doesn’t mean that others aren’t interested.
It is also telling that it is always personal attacks that are meant to demean and shame me. Never specifically about what I have written. By a few people who have never once met me, nor know anything really about me. I work at all of this daily- and honestly- CL is still on my scope- although life does offer its distractions, even for me.
Considering the scope of what I am doing- and the results that I have achieved so far- I also disagree that I have lost credibility. My goal is to once again get people talking- and judging by what is happening even in here- that is working.
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And then in my defense- this was posted by someone else…
Conspiracy of Silence-BBC paid off producers to block the publication of this documentary in 1994.
Hmmmm.
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And so it goes…
It is true that I have been fighting hard to defend myself through all of this, and for that I offer no apology. No one knows where I am coming from better than myself, and since I am compelled to argue my case- I will continue to do so when I feel the need. Most of the criticisms, in my opinion, have been personal in nature- and so I will do what I can to dispel the misconceptions that these amateur therapists want to throw at me.
Franklin has not been completely dispelled- and I believe the only reason it was dismissed is because there was a concerted effort to close the investigation down by way of a conspiracy of actions from the main players of the situation. There are WAY TO MANY inconsistencies to the investigation to say that it should be disregarded, esp. when there are concerns that the child prostitution just transferred from Omaha to Penn State. I would probably let this whole thing go if I wasn’t convinced that this evil didn’t stop but rather just changed forms and location.
I was asked by a dear friend of mine who I think should be asking the questions to all of this- and my answer is EVERYONE. Local government and law enforcement has shown over and over again- just recently- that they have no interest in uncovering the truth that happened here, and so it is going to take the voice of the people to change this. Why is this important? Because child trafficking and prostitution needs to be stopped- and the only way to do so is to expose the instances that people know about – such as what happened in Franklin.
I have had it said that my account of my experiences in Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor Story are fabricated, however- they are my experiences and none of it is fabricated. It isn’t as if I lived in a vacuum- and there are PLENTY of people who remember the things I do, and though their experiences aren’t exactly like mine, they are similar enough to give my version of events credence. Those who discredit and try to defame my version of events are either ignorant of what I am talking about, or they have ulterior motives, whatever they might be- to lash out at me- usually with personal attacks that have nothing whatsoever to do with my book or what I have written.
To be honest, I find this incredibly frustrating. My parents were involved with a child trafficking ring, and there is ample evidence to show why I have the concerns that I do. I was also asked what questions I would ask, and though there are many- I would just like to relate a few.
1. Why was my dying, drug addicted, needle using, alcoholic brother at a private gathering for Johnny Gosch down in Miami in November (I think), of 2005- a few months before my father died? Identified by five different people from a picture that I provided, could there be a relation to my brother showing up at this conference with the fact that my father was trying to come clean about what he was guilty of at the time? Was my brother there, as I believe, to find out if my father called Noreen (which she HERSELF told me that he did), and what exactly he told her about her son’s disappearance? And although he was identified by five different people, why does Noreen stay quiet about not only this event, but also my father’s supposed phone call as well?
2. Considering that I have been trying since 2006 to try and get my past and my family’s past investigated by the local authorities and government officials, not to mention the local FBI- having to publish a blog, write a book- and stand constant guard for attacks, not only regarding my personal life but for attacks on other surrounding me, I wonder how many victims, less tenacious than myself, have fallen through the cracks- considering that with everything I have done, with concerns to those in charge I have gotten absolutely NOWHERE. Why is it so hard to have all of this looked at- not only by authorities but also by the media. I have heard all of this referred to as a “career killer”, but why is there no one brave enough to actually delve into the real story surrounding all of this and find out for themselves?
3. What is happening to the 2,185 children our Justice dept. reports go reported missing a day- and why don’t we hear more about it in the media as a whole? Why are other countries problems with human and child trafficking more important than what is happening on American soil? What is the reason that this has been kept quiet- and could it be part of the problem with all of this?
4. What does Paul Bonnaci and John DeCamp and all the other people in the investigation remember about Omaha during the time of Franklin, and why have simple- well known facts been left out the investigation? How could this have been possible- considering the scope of Omaha at the time and the close vicinity that all of this occurred from the police station?
5. And lastly, although this is hardly my last question, who began this carefully crafted hoax, why did they do it, and most importantly, considering that all of this happened well before the internet and personal home computers, HOW did they do it? This general argument has been the principle argument from the proponents of the False Memory Foundation for decades, but NEVER ONCE has it ever been expounded upon or explained. Since all of what I am speaking about in Omaha has been deemed a conspiracy theory by some, my question is whether anyone can adequately argue this stance and offer details and to who, why, and how so many parents began reporting child abuse all over the country at the same time without knowing any of the other parents that were doing it at the same time. Obviously involved in the hoax- what compelled so many parents to put themselves and their children under such scrutiny? Before the time of social media- how did this “hysteria” spread all over the country- lasting not months but YEARS in the playing out? Has any other “hysteria” lasted so long- or had such impact, and most importantly- how did a hysteria give so many children venereal diseases in their rectums? These are just a few questions that I would like answered.
It is frustrating- doing all of this, and I have a tendency to become irritable and respond in ways that are not as nice as I could be, and though I realize that I could sugar coat and rephrase things to constantly go the higher road, I realize that I am just a man- not a saint- and sometimes not only does being blunt get the point across, but it also can feel really good sometimes. I am tired of arguing personal aspects of my life with complete strangers who don’t have a clue what they are talking about as I look at it as nothing more than a distraction from the truth that really needs to come out with all of this- but I will still take the time to defend myself when necessary.
Rabbit hole (Omaha)
Date: 2012-12-10, 3:19PM CST
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I’ve read Sharter’s book and I think it is completely made up. I have also done some research on Sharter and understand that he claims to be an mkultra test subject with the mental ability to kill people with thoughts who is constantly hunted by the government and attacked with radio signals to avert him from using this superpower. Lolololol ok!
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My Reply…..
Rabbit Hole
Date: 2012-12-10, 3:28PM CST
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That is one of the stupidest arguments I have heard yet. Yes I was a victim of MKUltra- but I don’t have super powers of any sort.
You guy are an idiot. Anonymous as well- which also makes you a coward.
I doubt you read the book- and you obviously didn’t understand it if you did.
And being inundated with weaponry to shut me up happened- you just don’t have a clue as to what I am talking about.
Besides- what is your actual objective- cause I think you have ulterior motives in here- and you seem completely obsessed with me.
Better people read the book and decide for themselves.
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Then this was posted…
Book Guy
Date: 2012-12-10, 4:40PM CST
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I listened to a net radio broadcast put on by this Sharter(sp) a few months back.
It was very sad to listen to.
It sounded to me as though this was a middle aged man, destroyed by poor sexual choices in his youth, deciding to then create this huge fantastical story based on rumors and half-truths.
I remember that in addition to the mind control claims, he spoke of how he believed that for years the government had been injecting people into his life at verying degrees and how all of this was somehow responsible for multiple stints in mental facilities.
Big conspiracy? I cannot say that there was not with absolute certainty, though I must add that this stiry has been disproven on many levels multiple times.
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So I again responded…
Book Guy
Date: 2012-12-10, 4:57PM CST
Reply to: your anonymous craigslist address will appear here
If anyone would like to listen to these recordings- you can get to them from my website- DavidShurter.com
I am in a relationship of 19 yrs and have a great life. Trying to make me something that I am not is just sad- esp. considering you have no clue who I am.
Obviously you didn’t understand the book- or what I was trying to say.
Thank GOD this is not my only venue- and judging from the sales of the book- this site doesn’t really matter in the scheme of things.
Then lastly…
Sharter’s book gave nothing factual to the reader but readily accessible and to date completely refuted allegations. The rest of the book is indeed quite the fictional account and survives only on the notion that nothing, no matter how ridiculous, can be 100% disproven.
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This, to me, is just another example of the smear campaign that has been going on concerning myself and Rabbit Hole- but at this point I am going to stop- because sad enough, the poster- in my impression, is desperately trying to sound smarter than they actually are.
Lately I seem to be getting reviews that have been more of a personal attack rather than relating anything useful, good or bad- about the book. This is sad, because I really would like to hear about what people think of what I said rather than who they think I am as a person, esp. considering the fact that they have never met me and have no idea what they are talking about. However, my mother always told me- good or bad- at least they are talking about me.
I can’t do anything about bad reviews other than ignore them- however, I just wanted to repost a comment that I left on the latest review of my mental health…
“The enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge”… Stephen Hawkings
As far as me being crazy- I tell everyone that I am not crazy- I’m an a**hole (excuse my language), and there is a distinct difference. I CAN and DO form coherent thoughts and though they might not always agree with me, I have found people to find me anything BUT crazy. Determined, tenacious, unforgiving- but not crazy, and those who say so generally have some ulterior motive to dismiss me- which is EXACTLY what calling someone crazy is an attempt to do. Also- the PROFESSIONALS who actually see me on a regular basis have also determined that, although I have my issues like everyone else in the world, for the most part I am completely sane, which surprises them considering all that I have gone through. You can’t go through the torture and abuse that I experienced and not come out with scars, but all in all, I have overcome what I experienced in my past. But my point is, because of the extensive therapy I have gone through, I am pretty self-aware, and because I am also articulate- I am not going to stop trying to expose the events that occurred here in Omaha.
And that is my personal review of myself this morning.
There is a Native American belief that on your birthday you are supposed to offer your friend’s gifts, and so on this birthday I am offering the kindle version of Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story for free for the day. check it out on Amazon!
I believe that Alisha is truly the only victim out of what I call the famous three with concerns to the Franklin fiasco- Paul Bonnaci, Troy Boner, and Alisha Owen. I knew Troy personally- and knew him to be a pathological liar, as well as being heavily involved with Alan Baer as one of his main “Baer boys”. I have always thought that these two- Troy and Paul- surrounded Alisha in order to quiet her- as she was the key to breaking all this years ago when she was carrying ex Omaha chief of police Robert Wadman’s baby as a minor. I think that Paul and Troy effectively played this girl in order to make her out to be a liar by being so out there themselves. I mean, historically it was Paul’s testimony to the Grand Jury that got ALL OF THE CHILD ABUSE COMPLAINTS DROPPED.
I have spoken with Alisha personally online and I think that it would behoove people to know that she despises John DeCamp and this belief that DeCamp was her hero is not an idea that Alisha adheres too. No, in fact she thinks that John DeCamp just took her money and then left her in the lurch. The ONLY TWO who have benefited from this mess is John DeCamp- and Paul Bonnaci- who won a million dollar suit. Whether he claimed a dime of that money is beside the point- the fact that these two are the only two who have benefited from this mess says a lot in my opinion.
Historically- everyone who came forward trying to expose this have ended up dead- like the prosecuting attorney Gary Caradori who had his plane blown up over Robert Wadman’s new jurisdiction in Illinois after Wadman left Omaha. I guess it is just a coincidence that Caradori’s plane disintegrated right over the place that one of the VERY PEOPLE HE WAS INVESTIGATING was employed as a police officer, allowing Wadman to be one of the first people on the site. No one who has a brain can bypass the specifics of this case- and it all boils down to one big cover up- by some of the people who are suppose to be CHAMPIONS FOR THE CAUSE.
The tales of Johnny Gosch have done quite a bit to distract people from what was going on in Omaha, but other than Paul, DeCamp, and Noreen Gosch- who has had contact with Johnny? No one that I know of- people think he is alive because these three say he is- and ONLY these three. Why would they continue this facade you ask? Because there is no statute of limitations on murder- and if it is discovered that Johnny Gosch is in fact deceased- these three are going to have A LOT of questions to answer. That is why I believe this whole fall out with Nick Bryant and Noreen Gosch- even though it happened 18 months ago- is relevant. He wanted to flush out Johnny- and of course the Gosch camp can’t allow that- as I believe there is no Johnny to flush out.
Last night the main people on Franklinfiles.net all said that they have been threatened over their involvement with the site. I think that this is bogus- and it makes them seem different than I have found them to truly be. They have done their absolute best to promote Noreen Gosch’s campaign and will openly attack ANYONE who speaks out against what they are saying. Franklinfiles.net is nothing more than a “sponge site” obtaining info from real victims in order to intimidate, trash, and ultimately quiet anyone who would speak out against the official stories presented by John DeCamp, Noreen Gosch, and Paul Bonnaci. This site is a testament to the fact that the propaganda machine is up and running smoothly in order to dictate and try to determine the course of this investigation.
I get asked this quite a bit, and so I figure that I should give some explanation as to what my objectives are in all of this that I am doing. Despite what others are saying about me bringing chaos to the situation, I am merely trying to get to the truth of what happened here. Why? Well, that is somewhat complicated.
I guess the most compelling aspect of all of this actually deals with one of the things I am being criticized the most about, and that deals with my spiritual convictions. You see, my father tried to come clean before he died and no one listened to him, so consequently, it became my responsibility- as I believe that the sins of the father fall upon the shoulders of the son. No one I know of has spoken about the things that I know to be true- and so therefore- since I am the only one talking freely about what REALLY happened in Omaha concerning the people who were also involved with Franklin Credit Union, I feel it is my responsibility to keep speaking out until people start to listen. How long is long enough and what determines success for me remains to be determined, however- I figure that if God wants me to spend a lifetime trying to expose this in order to bring light to the truth of what is running and directing our nation’s problems with child and human trafficking- then so be it.
Remembering is not always easy, and sometimes it takes me time to remember the names of people who were heavily involved, not because I have a problem with repression, but because we are talking thirty years back, and it is not always easy to recall specifics on events so old. However, I think that events in Omaha could be more connected to Penn State than anyone suspects right now- and it is my feeling that in all probability the same people who were involved here in Omaha could be involved with this case of child trafficking as well, so I feel obligated to keep rehashing the past in order to explain what was happening here in detail. Not because I am obsessed or anything, or that I am really looking for anything particular other than having my side at least considered- but rather, I feel a responsibility to this whole thing, esp. coming from where I do in all of this, not only to my father but, more importantly, to God. Evil prospers when good men do nothing, and in the end, we all have to answer to God for our actions and I have no intention of offering excuses to God; so therefore, I will do what I feel I must.
It took me a few days to recall this name- but I have been asked about the pornography that was being made in Omaha, and it occurred to me that not only was my brother Stephen involved in the snuff films at the Hollywood- but our family- and esp. Alan Baer- were connected with a woman in town named Nancy Bounds, who used to run a modeling agency here in town. In league with Alan, she was an oversexed, dark haired power-hungry woman who smoked incessantly- often making overt sexual advances on the clients Alan referred to her- all the while promising them a career as a model- or at least that was my personal experience with the woman. It was always promises of “Eden” that were given to get those involved who couldn’t be blackmailed, gotten into drugs, or prostitution. Nancy Bounds and her school for modeling was a front for much of what was going on here concerning the child pornography that was being manufactured here. Just as the old Godfather’s Pizza downtown was referred to as “the candy shop” as boys were paraded around and bought in the basement of the establishment under the guise of Stars Eatery, and how all the drugs and kids were trafficked in the basement bar of the French Cafe once called the Underground, and in what used to be a back room in the Antiquarium bookstore. I believe these things still matter because the truth still remains to be reached concerning all of the events that were happening here in this small town.
Why do I think that the spider web has extended into Penn State? Well, the same people dealt with each other in each instance, like Joe Paterno at the same ball that Larry King sang at for George Bush Sr.- and does anyone believe that all of these people risked their careers over ONE pedophile? The thought is ludicrous. Besides- look at Houston Texas during the same time of Franklin. There was a doctor who came out trying to expose the pedophilia that was happening at the time concerning young boys and such- but he “committed suicide” during his crusade and it was dropped- but this was happening in the late 80s- the same time that Franklin was going down. I think that this picture is MUCH BIGGER than any of us have an idea of- and though it can be contested whether it is the government, the Illuminati, the Freemasons- whatever- the point is that there is BIG MONEY in the selling of children for sex- and someone is making an untold amount of money off it. And the only way to stop it is to expose it, which is the reason why I won’t stop.
I am also always asked about proof. I believe it exists- in the form of satanically based child porn pictures that were obtained with the arrest and conviction of Larry King in Ocean City Maryland (not the same one involved with Franklin, but coincidentally a man with the same name). It is my personal belief that since my brother resided in Ocean City Maryland- which is were he died- that collection of pictures discovered two years after his death could be the very collection my brother always kept with him. It is definitely a coincidence that Larry King had in his possession the very type of pictures I KNOW my brother had, and they lived in the same town. I guess it is the timing that bothers me the most. But this is also part of the puzzle that I would like to figure out.
“I’m starting to get to a point where I’m not sure what to believe anymore.
I try to keep in mind that some of these people (yourself included) are victims of all of this. With that being the case I try to realize I can’t possibly put myself in any of your shoes and attempt to understand the manner in which some victims prefer to handle all of this.
I’ve said before I may not agree with your stance on everything, but at the same time your approach to all of this in terms of speaking out about it seems to be the most commendable one. It seems to me that you continually search for and attempt to provide as much info as possible. You do so without playing this “game of secrets” that seems to exist amongst other victims.
Now I realize it is easy for me to sit here and ask why wouldn’t all the victims – especially the known victims – come out, work together, and do everything they can to shed as much light on this issue to the general public as possible.
Why wouldn’t Noreen Gosch, Paul Bonacci, Alisha Owen, Eulice Washington, yourself and any others known to be victims (that I am not aware of) gather together as one voice that presses on so loudly people will be forced to report on your story one way or another?
In that regard I have a hard time understanding why a majority of you can’t come together in some manner and make your story known on a more national level. I realize the mainstream media and news outlets are controlled and even involved in the cover-up and/or pedophilia crimes themselves, but I would like to think there is some way the victims could still gather together and make this all known on a more mainstream level.
But then again, that may simply be frustration on my part because in truth I know it isn’t nearly as simple as I attempt to make it sound.
Nonetheless, I still have a hard time understanding why Noreen and her “team” wouldn’t come forth with as much info as possible. The same with Paul Bonacci and others.
If they want to put all of this behind them as best as possible for the sake of the own well being and to proceed on with the rest of their life in as much of a “normal” and happy state as they possibly can then by all means they have the right to do so.
When they try to hold that approach, however, while at the same time making little statements here and there on a scale that only reaches those who really attempt to follow this whole mess as much as possible (rather than reaching the masses) it becomes a matter of actions which stand in contrast to one another.
In regards to Johnny Gosch, he seems to be the only one amongst them who holds true to that. Assuming he is alive – like many claim – at least the word that comes out about him is that he has no desire to be in the spotlight, tell his story, and deal with everything that would follow if he ever did so.
And in that regard he seems to follow through with all of that. He doesn’t make that claim only to then pop on the scene here and there and then bemoan the fact people discuss the statements he makes. That I can understand.
What seems a bit odder though is that in kowing that is what Johnny wants why does his mother continue to press on with the case when she apparently knows full well her son apparently prefers it to all be left in the past?
But then again, as his mother – and apparently having had communications with him in the past if not still to this very day – I would have to assume she knows more about how he feels regarding the manner she proceeds with all of this then I do.
You seem to be the only person I am currently aware of willing to say something about all of this while at the same time realizing once you bring your story to the public it then becomes fair game for the public to comment on what you have to say – whether it be in favor of or against you.
No matter how much any victim may desire the public to see things “their way” it is something they will never be able to control. Noreen Gosch seems to have a very difficult time in understanding that reality.”
And My reply to this today… what you will find is that most of them are liars. that is why they don’t like to be asked about anything. It is hard to keep up on the lies. And the whole change to Franklinfiles.net is due to the fact that I have been using it for my blog. This vow of secrecy for them is more telling than anything.
Johnny Gosch is long dead. Ever heard anything about him from anyone other than Noreen and Paul? In 30 yrs? Wow- that is some hiding dont you think? no credit- no way of living- NO EVEN A JOB BEING REPORTED TO SOCIAL SECURITY. That is some deep hiding. Wonder- all these people who ‘help” him and NO ONE IS COMING FORWARD OR HAS. Wow- ever hear of a such a story like that? I havent.
take Paul B. out of the mix- and then explain to me exactly how an abduction in West Des Moines IA takes precedence over what occurred here in Omaha. It shouldnt- but since the great and powerful Paul B. says it is so- well then, we should just take him at his word.
Whatever those dumbfucks do in Franklinfiles.net doesnt matter to me in the least. But they cant HELP but give me stuff for my blog- which has about 150 people hitting it a day from all over the world.
I dont mean to be rude but I am an asshole and could care less about making friends with all of this. i have a great deal many friends- I dont need some names on my computer screen to express desire for me. So- with that- I will continue to do what I am doing and fuck anyone who doesn’t like it. (Excuse my profanity but come on- enough is enough and I have definitely had enough).
Then I Recieved this from a Completely Different Person… Showing me that I am not alone in my feelings….
The political machinations behind the scenes were, and are, the drivers of this story. I know DeCamp wants everyone to believe that he somehow stumbled into this sordid affair and because he is a man of conscience, he tried to obtain justice. None of that is true, and DeCamp admits as much in his updated account of the story. The Franklin Affair was handed to John DeCamp after the matter was thoroughly vetted by individuals with ties to the Intelligence Community. The primary source of information was a man who funneled things through the Lyndon Larouche organization. DeCamp found nothing. DeCamp won nothing for the victims. DeCamp received a seat in the NE Senate and some brief celebrity for his troubles.
What does the Lyndon Larouche Organization do? What are they? They are a political organization. Since the children/victims did not find justice, who (besides DeCamp) benefitted from exposing what was happening in this regard? Those questions are the ones that need to be answered in order to figure out the power structure behind these crimes.
As for Noreen Gosch. I suspect she is unable to live with her ghosts and unable to reconcile what happened. The only way for her to feel relevant is to have the attention focused on her. I believe this became about Noreen a long time ago. I believe this is what makes Noreen feel important: like she is cared about. Once this fades away and no one looks/asks any more she will feel irrelevant. Can you think of anything worse than that?
Looking2: And for your information, LukeJ has mocked David’s religion
Looking2: Paul, you called him crazy last time you were in this chat
Looking2: IG even had to tell you not to continue doing it
PAUL: No he has not… After David’sviolent attacks, Luke has stated that David has had mental break downs due to not staying on his medication
Looking2: I read it myself Paul. Actually I have copied and saved what it was LukeJ said about David. I will post it here if you or anyone else feels it is necessary
PAUL: Looking… I believe you are crazy and obsessed with “nothing and everything”.
Looking2: And there you go
Looking2: calling more people crazy
PAUL: and you with your constant attacks on Noreen? What is that
Looking2: constant attacks?
PAUL: in the past few days
Looking2: I made my thoughts known. And since then the only discussion I have had about it is in response to others addressing me about what I said
PAUL: you started the whole deal… Looking … a few days ago, the others only responded to your attacks on Noreen…LOL you need to go back and read what you wrote a few day ago which touched off this whole thing
PAUL: That is when this began
PAUL: And yes people called you out on it
PAUL: It was in chat for anyone to read
Looking2: I didn’t attack Noreen – you don’t realize how sensitive you guys are regarding certain things
Looking2: Yes, and I encourage everyone to read it
Okay- now for my thoughts on this. Correct me if I am wrong but ALL OF THE COMPLAINTS CONCERNING CHILD ABUSE GOT DISMISSED AFTER PAUL BONNACI’S PERFORMANCE- which can be seen in the British documentary Conspiracy of Silence on YouTube. The fact that this man is calling ANYONE crazy after what his mental state did to all of the child abuse allegations, (getting them ALL dismissed), is just funny to me. He was just too unstable to be believed- and this was OTHERS determination- not mine.
As far as “violent attacks” on Noreen- God I get sick of her being the only victim in all this. Noreen considers anyone who questions her load of bullshit an attack- and yet she can verbally attack anyone she deems a threat- which is anyone who doesn’t go along with her. As Paul said…. PAUL: No he has not… After David’sviolent attacks, Luke has stated that David has had mental break downs due to not staying on his medication… so my question is- how does a woman who has ONLY MET ME ONCE know anything about my personal life? She is telling people that I am heavily medicated- how would she know? Since I am NOT- my contention is that she is just saying this to try and discredit anyone from listening to me. She and the Franklin crew consider anyone who isn’t far up Noreen’s butt to be crazy-and anyone who would ask any questions is “attacking”.
This all started for me not with attacking Noreen- but deciding that Paul Bonnoci is a complete and utter liar- as I knew Troy Boner to be, (knowing him personally). My belief is that Troy and Paul surrounded Alisha Owen in order to screw with her and quiet her- since she was CARRYING EX POLICE CHIEF ROBERT WADMAN’S BABY AS A MINOR. But for the record, I don’t and never did think that Paul was crazy- I think that he is a LIAR AND AN ACTOR.