Why the Argument about Sybil Matters

Why the Argument about Sybil Matters

I left the following argument at http://magicdogpress.wordpress.com/2011/11/26/sybil-exposed-finding-reality/ . The author wants to suggest that in cases of abuse- for it to be substantiated, that two external sources are needed to make it fact. This is a set-up designed for liars and pedophiles, as I explain below. I also vent my main criticism of Nathan’s book- in that it is agenda driven to shut down the very things I am trying to expose. There is a great deal of propaganda being waged to shut these issues down, and I don’t believe that is going to work this time.

“Two external sources huh? So had the assisstant coach not walked in on Sandusky plowing that 10 year old in the shower- by these standards- it didn’t happen. Child abusers RARELY IF EVER ABUSE WITH AN AUDIENCE. This is a game that is set up for abusers- for if they and the child they molest are the only two that know- then the child is out of luck.

This book is adgenda driven in that it wants to dismiss our nations history with satanic abuse with DID and Sybil, dicrediting it all together and trying to dismiss it the same. However, Sybil never said she was satanically abused. The issues of Sybil are now coming up to discredit what has started to become a movement in this nation- in that the victims of our nations history are starting to ban together. THERE ARE CERTAINLY MORE THAN TWO OF US IN OMAHA, AND NONE OF THE ISSUES HERE HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SYBIL, ALTHOUGH THEY ARE INCREDIBLY CONNECTED TO OUR NATIONS SATANIC HISTORY.

For more info on what is happening here in Omaha- check out DavidShurter.com .

Oh- and if anyone has any questions as to whether Nathan has an adjenda or not- you only have to read the comments regarading her book on the Wall Street Journal. Nathan herself went on a rant and although she suggests Sybil caused our “hysteria” in her book in the chapters “Contagion” and “Containment”, she says that she is convinced that Geraldo actually caused “satanic panic” by failing to produce a family of satanists on his show in the 80s. It makes no sense- and it shows that she will twist whatever she needs in her mind to fit the picture as she sees it.”

About “Sybil in her own words” by Patrick Suraci, Ph.D

I recieved this in my email and was given permission to share it. There is a lot of good information in this post…

SYBIL in her own words: The Untold Story of Shirley Mason, Her Multiple Personalities and Paintings

The book “Sybil” by Flora Rheta Schreiber written in the 1970’s, has recently received media attention again.

One author has attacked the veracity of the Sybil story, calling MPD – DID (dissociative identity disorder) a “cultural construct.” Research shows that this isn’t true. MPD – DID is found around the world. Research studies have shown it to be caused by severe, repeated trauma.

For research study information, see http://childabusewiki.org/index.php?title=Dissociative_Identity_Disorder

Another book published this year was written by a psychologist that knew Sybil and others in her life.

The book is called “SYBIL in her own words: The Untold Story of Shirley Mason, Her Multiple Personalities and Paintings”

A kindle version is available at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/SYBIL-her-words-Personalities-ebook/dp/B0067QMNVU/

A paperback version iis available at: http://www.amazon.com/SYBIL-her-own-words-Personalities/dp/0615560474/

Several articles have been written about the new book and Sybil.

Book Review of “Sybil in her own words” http://sybilandmpd.blogspot.com/2011/11/review-of-sybil-in-her-own-words-by.html

from Sybil’s closest living relative http://sybilandmpd.blogspot.com/2011/11/from-sybils-closest-living-relative.html

Sybil In Her Own Words – The Untold Story of Shirley Mason http://sybilandmpd.blogspot.com/2011/09/sybil-in-her-own-words-untold-story-of.html

The author Patrick Suraci, Ph.D. describes writing the book “Sybil in her own words” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBgr92uC4YI&feature=youtu.be

Biography of the author “Sybil In Her Own Words: The Untold Story of Shirley Mason” http://members.authorsguild.net/psuraci/

Art work from the book, “Sybil In Her Own Words: The Untold Story of Shirley Mason” http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.108682822546007.17639.108610352553254&type=1

Review of “Sybil in her own words”

Permission was given to post this here.

After reading the book “Sybil in her own words” by Patrick Suraci, Ph.D., I realized the importance of this book. The people in the Sybil story are treated like human beings and they are allowed to speak about their own life stories. What is interesting about this book, is that it is written by a professional who has experience with the scientific knowledge of MPD.

The book shows how Dr. Connie Wilbur’s treatment was successful and that Shirley Mason (Sybil) never had a relapse or return of her MPD symptoms after her treatment with Wilbur. She was able to live a full life, as shown in her interactions and discussions with Patrick Suraci, Ph.D.

In chapter seven, Dr. Suraci goes back to Shirley Mason’s home town to check on her story. He speaks with three women, Wilma Bode, Betty Christen and Patricia Alcott, who were classmates and playmates with Shirley in her childhood. Wilma and Betty were two of the few children that were able to enter Shirley’s household.

Wilma stated, “We always said that her mother was an old witch.” She describes Shirley as having troubles concentrating in school and not knowing if she was day dreaming or that her attention was drawn away. Wilma is asked if she believes if Shirley was abused. Wilma states that she believes that some of what is written in the book did happen.

Betty talks about Shirley’s mother. She states that her mother never came over to visit, but would come over and look (or peek) in the windows when they had company. She said that “Ms. Mason relieved herself in a neighbor’s yard.”

Patricia describes Shirley’s mother as “strange, stern, raucous” and “someone to stay away from.” She states that Shirley’s mother (Mattie) “had a shrill voice and ridiculed Shirley.” Shirley’s mother repeated things over and over again. Patricia stated Mattie “played the piano too loudly, bombastically, venting anger. She was harsh.” She said that Shirley’s father (Wilbur) “stood in shaded corners with his head down.”

Patrick Suraci describes the mechanism of “splitting” that contributed to the development of Shirley’s personalities. Shirley came to view Mattie sometimes as the “good mother” and sometimes as the “bad mother.”

In his chapter on Shirley in New York, Patrick Suraci speaks with Jim and Naomi, Shirley’s closest living relatives. Jim had noticed that on the phone Shirley “was a different personality, a different person.” Naomi agreed and described a strong change in personality also. Naomi in Chapter Nine tells Patrick that Shirley and Dr. Wilbur confirmed that the book Sybil “was 100% accurate.”

The pictures in the book are excellent. Under one of the pictures drawn by Shirley’s alter Peggy of a Christmas tree (in black and white), the note describes that Christmas was unpleasant for Shirley because she would receive a lot of games and toys which her mother would put away and not let her play with. Shirley was told she could play with them another time. Yet her mother would give them away to a poor family that didn’t have anything.

Patrick Suraci states in his chapter Controversy Over Sybil that Mason, Schreiber and Wilbur were offered money, television and media interviews to reveal Shirley’s identity, but did not do this. He discusses the problems with Dr. Herbert Spiegel’s view of the Sybil story, as well as other skeptical of the story.

I highly recommend this book to those interested in the Sybil story. It is very well documented, using actual transcripts of conversations with those in the story and those that knew Shirley, showing that the original Sybil book was an accurate description of Shirley’s life.

Nick Bryant’s New Interview on Events Concerning Omaha

http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2011/10/RIR-111025.php

The above link is a new interview with Nick Bryant, author of the Franklin Scandal. It gives a good overall view of many of the concerns that were going on in Omaha, although I feel the need to correct him in a few places.

First off, he makes a comment that those who say events in Omaha somehow involve a government program called MKUltra on the internet are “psychologically unstable”. Since my name comes up with regards to this all over the net, and I am a survivor of MKUltra here in Omaha, I can only assume that he meant me- or people like me. He comments that only one person claimed to be part of such a project, but doesn’t mention that it is Paul Bonnaci, and that it was his claims alone that got over a thousand child abuse claims dismissed in the process.

Second, he says that drugs weren’t part of this- that the millionaires who were involved in child trafficking were too wealthy to involve themselves in drugs. This in and of itself is ridiculous, as they seem to go together, and the people who were involved with all of this have NEVER HAD ENOUGH MONEY IN THEIR LIVES. Empires were built on the money cocaine brought in, and Kevin Dobson and the government paperwork involving him show his cocaine trafficking in Omaha, thus negating this statement and showing that drugs in the 80’s flowed just as freely here as they did everywhere else.

However, other than that- he has a good grasp of the specifics of the political cases surrounding events here, as well as being a champion of Alecia Owen, who was really the only real victim regarding the “famous three” in my opinion.

For those who want a quick hour summary of the events surrounding Omaha, it is a really good listen!

New Post Sent to Media and Contacts 11/12/2011

Now, along with Sybil Exposed, is a new book slamming Sybil. I find it interesting that books about Sybil- equating her with our national hysteria, are suddenly starting to hit the market. I speak extensively about this on DavidShurter.com, but I wanted to point this out. It could just be a coincidence, but considering that I have been vocal for about 4 years + or more, I can’t help but wonder if this is a way to shore up the damage that my book is going to cause.

There is a definite propoganda campaign going on against what I am trying to uncover, and I really dont believe that Sybil- or Geraldo, is going to be able to be blamed for what happened in this country.

Also- there is a connection to the Penn State thing and Franklin Credit Union, in that Sandusky went to the same affair that Larry King sang at in 1988. This is strange- and I wonder if this could be connected somehow to the events in Omaha, NE. Again, check Franklinfiles.net for more info- they are GREAT in investigating stuff!

I just personally dont believe that anyone is going to believe the whole false memory crap anymore- esp. when they get wind of the truth.

David

A New Development With Local Omaha Police Officials

I have been ultra- critical about the actions of our local officials in Omaha Nebraska, but I want to amend some of the things that I have said.  I have discovered that the Omaha Police Dept. has been listening, and today I was contacted by the appropriate authorities.  Able to give my concerns to someone who was more than willing to listen, I want to extend an incredibly felt THANK YOU to the police department for helping me at least get all of this off my chest.

Nothing goes as fast as I’d like, and I am incredibly impatient as an individual,   and with that I just want to extend an apology for being so defensive in the postings that I have published thus far on this, as well as the emails that I have sent.  I realize now that people (including OPD), are listening and reacting, but it takes time.  I’m sorry for not realizing that more fully.

Again- the appropriate authorities are looking into my concerns, and so it seems that, one way or another, we will finally see resolution to some of this.

Many thanks goes to the Omaha Police Department- I know I haven’t made it easy and I appreciate your understanding.

David Shurter

Stephen W. Shurter and Johnny Gosch- 1st Abducted Milk Carton Child

This was sent to me today about my brother showing up at a private event for Johnny Gosch in 2005.

“ps…and your brother showed up in a county type vehicle a large white truck…one with orange cones in the back….so he knew someone, somewhere to have access to the truck.  he was noticed by my people, first when he walked up to enter…he said to a friend, “so, is this where the meeting is?”.  my friend said…this is not a meeting.  that alerted him…as it was an event….program, etc…not a “meeting”.  so they watched him, while I was busy setting up.  they never saw him before and we all know each other.  then he came up and bought a book, before it started, while everyone else waited until the end, so Noreen could sign them.  He bought a book before the program started and left before the program began.  my guys followed him out….they saw the truck he got into.  they copied down the license plate number and gave it to me…all without knowing who he was.  He just did not belong.  I gave the number to Noreen, never heard again untiil three years later, when she got to know you, and your brother, and sent his pic for my guys to identify.  they said that it WAS him.  He was also using a Jacksonville area ISP computer address.  That is all that i heard on it ever again. ”

I asked if I could share it and was told that I could.  Again- the question is why my brother went to this event in the first place, considering he was a drug addict homeless alcoholic who was dying.  Why did he take the time to go to this- other than to find out what was going on.  How did he find out  about  it?  The whole episode is strange, and sounds EXACTLY like my brother.  Not to mention several people have identified him, as he made himself hard to forget.

I wanted to share this- to show that I am not the only one who has questions about this- or about a lot of what I have said actually.

Further Conversations with the Media, the Local FBI, and OPD 11/08/2011

A Retraction on DavidShurter.Com

I said that my brother was at a Johnny Gosch seminar in Tampa, but after I checked my records, I realized I wrote down Miami- so I changed it. Still in November of 2005. (After an email I just recieved from one of the witnesses who told me about it- I discovered that I am wrong again.  It was Sept. 15, 2005 in Tampa).   I think my brother went there to find out what my father was saying, because Noreen Gosch herself told me that she recieved a phone call from my father, but didnt understand what he was saying until I came along. He spoke of “skeletons in his closet” and committing “crimes against children”. This was a private function, so how my brother even found out about it is question- but again, not so big as why my drug addicted, dying, homeless brother went to it in the first place. My father was coming clean- and they needed to know what he was telling people.

My sister told me that Officer Hale is mad because I made my stepmother cry. As the tapes at Nebraska Furniture Mart will prove, on the 15th of October, she is NOT afraid of me. What I am trying to do- yep- she is terrified, but of me, no, not really. All of this is some wierd sort of set up- and I just want to point that out. It might sound paranoid- but comparing my situation to all of those that I am speaking of- this is more of a pattern than a coincidence. Just more of the same.

I went to the county attorney yesterday to see if charges were pressed and was told no- I personally dont believe that she WILL press charges. She is doing everything she can to make me out to be a crazy man and get it taken care of though backdoor means- like getting a protection order on me. Now, after yesterday- I realize that the Omaha Police Department is helping her to do what she can to stop my website. Contrary to Officer Hale- I have EVER RIGHT TO TRY AND GET ALL THIS INVESTIGATED!! What they are mad about is that it is so public, and considering that DavidShurter.com got 166 hits yesterday- we are all starting to grasp exactly what is going on here.

I just wanted to let everyone know of the retraction on DavidShurter.com. With regards to the Omaha Police Dept.- if there is a better email to send this correspondance- I am all ears. Thanks.

David Shurter

OPD’s Response…

I understand your accusations but we need some evidence or something more to follow up on. If you have that please contact our Homicide Unit at 402-444-5656 or the Missing Persons Unit at 402-4445636. If not please don’t keep sending emails to the department with family issues. Write what you want on your website but you don’t need to send OPD emails about what you are posting. If we are interested we will go to the website or contact you.

My Response…

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Is it possible to have my dna tested with what you have on Ricky Chadek to see if my father is involved? That would be a place to start. If you look at the cases of Ricky Chadek, Johnny gosch, and Jacob Wetterling, you will find that a big blue pickup and a white oldsmobile are talked about. Even I could find this out in the simple research I was able to do. My parents owned both.

My father came clean about his crimes with hospice, but no one listened to him. Just like what is happening with me. I am not sure what you want me to do. Ill stop contacting you, but I am not going to stop what I am doing on my website. I think that these cold cases need to be solved, and I have MANY reasons to believe that my father was involved.

This is a family matter- but you also have to understand that we are ALL aware of the political implications that this poses, and I just say that I am sad that the OPD is no more willing to help investigate this than what it was under Robert Wadman’s reign. I thought that things would have changed- but I guess I am wrong.

This will be our last email- but I am going to put this up on my blog.

Thanks for your time.

David Shurter

I sent out one last email directly after- that was this…

One Last Thing, Sorry…

After what I heard about Officer Hale from my sister yesterday, I dont have much interest in going to your Homicide dept, esp. after I realized that is who is helping my step mother right now. Like he told my sister yesterday- he has no interest in justice. Correct me if I am wrong, but this is what I was told when I filed my own report- RB# 44127Z, that homicide would be dealing with my case . Of course, considering that this report is going to go up in front of Officer Hale, I dont think that it will make much of a difference. I have no trust in the homocide dept. – you are helping a child murderer. Whether you guys want to check it out or not.

David Shurter

Correspondance between Omaha Police Dept. and David Shurter 11/07/2011

I sent this out to everyone again- but I wanted to share it on my blog….

OPD Says:

What is it that you want? Your emails to the Police Department are not providing any evidence of criminal wrong doing in regards to kidnapping or murder, like your first email suggested. Do you have such evidence to produce that can be followed up on? If not please don’t continue to send emails about problems you are having with family unless you need to file a crime report. In that case call 911 if it is an emergency or call or Telephone Response Unit if it isn’t an emergency.

My Response:

First off, I believe that my father and stepmother were involved with the disappearance and murder of Ricky Chadek- which is an open unsolved cold case here in Omaha.  We can start there. I would also like the investigation into Johnny Gosch- since my brother attended a private conference for Johnny Gosch in Tampa in November 2005- right before our father died.  I believe that my parents were involved in a child abduction ring and may have the remains of dead children in their house.  They certainly have dead children in their past.  I would like closure to this.

I hope you dont mind but I am sending this out to everyone.  I dont much trust the OPD, and the fact that Officer Hale told my sister that he didnt care about justice, it seems that this is all going to be an uphill battle.

The protection order that I am facing is based on a false police report- and since the cat is out of the bag- I can show that I was in Key West on the 9th.  Our meeting took place (between my stepmother and I) on the 15th- and there should be film at Nebraska Furniture Mart showing EXACTLY what happened.

I just feel that this all is important- and that the OPD should be aware of what is going on.

People hiding the remains of dead children in their house is YOUR JOB to investigate, not mine.

David Shurter

Officer Edward Hale told My Sis that Joanne Shurter is Having me Arrested for my blog

Then my sis called the mayor’s office, and we are on our way down now to make a complaint.

Since the cat is out of the bag, I need to stress that I can PROVE WITHOUT A DOUBT that the complaint  police filed for this protection order was done with false information. 

Officer Edward Hale suggested to Joanne that she issue an arrest warrent out for me, which he told my sister, following up by the fact  that he didn’t bother to look at my website.   He called my sister  “crazy” on the phone, and  graduating at the top of her class with both her undergrad and masters, she didnt take much of a liking to that, which is why we are filing a complaint at Mayor Suttle’s office this afternoon, along with issuing a complaint with the Omaha Police Department.

I guess that all of this is going to have to be looked at after all.  If I am arrested because of my website- it will be in direct violation of my 1st amendment rights, and I will go as far as I have to go to LEGALLY  defend my contitutional rights.  I have only spoken about public documents that deal with me- so it is MY RIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THEM.  I am NOT GOING TO SHUT THIS SITE DOWN OR QUIET MYSELF IN ANY WAY!

Ill keep everyone informed as to what happens.  It is a drama that is almost too good to miss.

Left later that night on facebook:

Kathy Bannister I filed a complaint with Mayor Suttle’s office today regarding the terrible treatment that I received from Officer Hale. He was rude, and he told me that he is only interested in Joanne’s side of the story. I offered him info on several documented events, and told me he was not interested in the least. He also told me that he does not care about justice. Very alarming…

Kathy Bannister He told me that he is Detective Hale, but I just don’t associate detective or investigator with a man who is disinterested in justice.

A Letter Sent to Media, Local FBI, OPD, and Supporters 11/06/2011

I want to point out that the Nebraska State Patrol, Joanne C. Shurter, and the local FBI have known what I have been doing for years now- and that they are UNABLE TO DENY KNOWLEDGE OF ALL OF THIS when it all is said and done.  This is important- because it shows the consistent behavior of our local officials to turn a blind eye away from anything that has to do with the situations that I am speaking about.  It isnt just this either- I mean- OPD considered Amber Harris a run away until someone tripped over her rotted corpse in Hummel Park months later, at which time they promply arrested a local violent pedophile that was involved with her disapperance.

A brief explanation as to the events that have occurred.  My father Robert Lynn Shurter Jr. died in 2006, my sister Cindy Hester was murdered three weeks later, I was attacked in road rage that summer, and I called The Center for Missing and Exploited Children in Nov of 2006 to see if I could find any info on missing kids in the 70s.  The January of 2007, a Nebraska State Patrol officer called me and asked for more info.  Three weeks later, I called the Nebraska State Patrol and spoke to a Bob Frank, who was in charge of cold cases in Lincoln.  I told him what was going on and he told me he would call me back.  He never did.

Now- I see from Joanne C. Shurter’s Protection Order complaint that Bob Frank- who took my report- actually filled out two harrassmet complaints for Joanne C. Shurter- RB.#11575V  and  RB# Z40510  against me- NEVER ONCE CONTACTING ME IN THE PROCESS.  So for the Nebraska State Patrol to say they didn’t know what has been going on- is IMPOSSIBLE.  The local FBI cant say that either- since they are included in my BCC above and have been for quite some time.  This shows that there is a propensity on the part of our law officials, to play games with this situtation.

To be honest- I am finally pushing the envelope regarding my family’s crimes and such, and I have now made my own reports.  I am done playing games with all of this- it is time that it all comes out and gets looked at once in for all.  I put this quote on Amazon.com regarding Sybil Exposed and I think it is fair that I share with you what I said- as this is my general attitude…

“Yep- trauma effects the way the brain remembers, and people are not digital cameras. But you cant say that everything that they remember about abuse can be totally discounted, esp. when there are so many similar cases out there on the books.

Take me for example. It could be said that I need to prove my memories and everything that I said was true- but I really think the only thing I need to prove is that my dad abducted and killed kids and the judicial system turned a blind eye. That is all I have to prove-and since he is my dad, and I know him well, it wont be that hard to prove.

We can argue Freud all day- but Jung is the new leader now- and no psychobabble is going to change the facts coming out in Omaha. Ritual abuse and satanic ritual abuse are REAL- and no rhetoric is going to change the facts of that.”

It is time all this crap finally came out and got looked at- and our local law officials CAN NOT DENY KNOWING ABOUT THIS.  I just want to point that out.  Not only that- but they are involved.

Oh- with regards to Bob Frank- the cold case guy.  After I couldnt get any help from him- I went to Brian Mastre at KETV and asked him to help.  He had just done a story about a local kidnapped boy and I thought he could help.  Brian called me the next day and told me that Bob Frank couldnt find any proof that our family EVEN LIVED IN FREMONT- so I called Linden Elementary, and 15 minutes later had them fax not only Brian, but myself, my school records from Fremont.  He not only didnt bother to even look,but he lied about things that were simple to check out, let alone helping my stepmother file silent police reports about me.

Interesting how all of this is working out- isnt it?  This is NOT GOING TO GO AWAY.

I am probably going to do a new YouTube video about all of this so that I can share what is happening with others.  Everyone who has gone silently and complancently with events that play out in Omaha have gotten royally screwed- and I figure that if that is going to be a case- this time I AM GOING TO DEMAND A KISS.

Thanks for you time with all of this- and all of your support.

David Shurter