Perhaps The BEST Interview I Have Ever Had- SpingolaSpeaks- April 1st 2016

spingolaspeaks.net/2016/04/01/david-shurter/

A Perfect Example of How Government Internet Trolls Are Using Psychological Tactics to Influence You

http://yournewswire.com/government-internet-trolls-are-paid-to-use-psychological-influencing-on-you/

So this Sheva Burton- whose real name is Susan Mellrose, doesn’t even use her real name although she claims to be this huge survivor advocate, and has a blog that claims Fiona Barnett and I are working for and are protected by the government and that she and her group are the only TRUE survivor advocates, although they haven’t done ANYTHING for ANYONE but themselves.

And Sheva (Susan Mellrose) has been involved with the Hampstead case in the UK but now has been defending Amanda Prosser, Kathy Devine, and John Brown- who are government paid trolls in Australia. And judging by her comments, she seems to be snuggled in bed with this group.

Funny that a UK survivor advocate, whose Hampstead case has only been going on for about two years, has such an intimate knowledge of the Australian group.

What is obvious by her own rantings is that they are connected- TOTALLY connected.

The fact that this group always leaves out is that although these trolls seem incredibly well connected and have been for some time, Fiona and I have been working on our own for many years now and we only just met about FOUR months ago. But they will assert that it is we who are in league with the government and they are not. However, when looked at closely- what is obvious is that THEY are the ones who are nothing like what they are trying to appear to be.

Amanda Prosser worked for the Australian police until leaving for unknown reasons. She has also worked as a teacher- but got fired for talking to much about men from space with her students. And we can’t forget that she was also a poll dancer/stripper (not that there is anything wrong with that but compared with her other professions, it appears that she seems to be mentally unstable).

Kathy Devine has a history of searching out survivors and victimizing them, when she isn’t sending them to John Brown- who drugged and raped a male survivor in order to shut him up. THESE are the people Sheva Burton (Susan Mellrose) puts her complete faith in, and demands everyone else does the same- which begs into question her reliability and choice of character. She even defends Arthur Kaoutal, who claims he is a survivor but is well known to smoke meth and claims he is the Second Coming of Christ. THESE are the people Sheva Burton (Susan Mellrose) claim are the trustworthy ones.

But hell, she doesn’t even use her real name so I guess it is no skin off her nose. It isn’t like she has to take any personal responsibility for her actions, since she can’t be bothered to use her real name.

And Hoaxtead Research- the website set up to blast anyone connected with those fighting for the Hampstead children and their claims of being horrifically abused, is being led by ANOTHER anonymous troll who goes by El Coyote- which is a “jokey” term for a magician involved with Chaos magic. He and his group, while presenting themselves as victims, go all over the internet attacking anyone who is brave enough to call them out.

I had to personally block this entire group from every account I have on the internet to stop them attacking like a pack of wolves- the most notable was on Twitter when they linked Justin Beiber’s account to our conversation (just like ISIS has been reported to be doing in order to garner more public attention).

I was amused that afterwards, Beiber “liked” several of my tweets, including the one where I called Doug Mesner/satanist Lucien Greaves out for being a CIA paid troll.

So when looking at all of this- when you consider that THEY are an entire group working in LEAGUE with each other, and Fiona Barnett and I are just two people who just met four months ago- which group looks more like government paid trolls? Esp. considering that WE are trying to expose this pedophile ring while THEY are all claiming, IN MASS, that there is no proof that any such thing is happening.

So who is really trying to protect the government’s interests? The answer should be crystal clear.

Forget Hampstead in the UK- Let’s Talk About Shirley Oaks

This was published yesterday on Facebook by one of the Hampstead Trolls about Fiona Barnett and I wanted to deal with what is being said.

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First of all, none of these accusations are true. Fiona Barnett is a REAL survivor- who brought charges against Anthony Kidman- Nichole Kidman’s father- who was one of her main handlers into her MKUltra training- and it was this action that caused Anthony Kidman to commit suicide rather than face what he had done. Burton says she and her group are the only REAL survivor advocates- but what have any of them done? The people that she claims Fiona is associated with are working DIRECTLY with the bad side in an attempt to make all of these allegations go away- and there is ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF that Fiona has anything to do with any of these people. Burton and her group of pedophile protectors will say that they have proof- but they don’t EVER show it. They just say whatever they think that they can think of to try and discredit Fiona and survivors like her- and they ALWAYS set themselves up as the more superior ones.

Also, Fiona can’t control who gives her money on her Gofundme account. Burton says all the people who have contributed to her campaign are bad- that they are all pedophiles- but again- no proof is offered. Even if they DID have proof- which they don’t- it is absolutely NO REFLECTION on Fiona- and if there are bad people making donations- chances are this is being done ON PURPOSE in order to try and prevent others from contributing. Burton and the group she is representing will say anything in order to silence real survivors of childhood abuse while trying to set themselves up as the true champions- but what have ANY of them done? Have any charges been brought forward? We can see that Fiona Barnett HAS brought charges against her abusers- but what has this group done- other than round up and control survivors? They have done their best to silence survivors- and now- she is claiming that the allegations in the UK and in Australia have been proved to be false. AND THIS IS THE GROUP WHO IS SUPPORTING SURVIVORS? You will know a tree by its fruits- and theirs are rotted and distasteful.

This group is SOLELY focused on the Hampstead case- where two children came forward speaking about their horrible abuse- but they are FAR from the only ones who have come forward. If you listen to this group- esp. on their little Hoaxstead Research website- the only case before the UK is Hampstead- but it isn’t- and try as they might to make Hampstead out to be the UK’s version of McMartain- the case in the US that closed down every other investigation into an organized group of pedophiles into ritual child abuse- it won’t work. And this ISN’T the only case in the UK. In fact- the case that is hitting the UK hard ISN’T the Hampstead case- which is the ONLY case they are focused on- but rather, it is the case of Shirley Oaks.

Shirley Oaks was a home for children where horrific abuse of children ALSO happened. They have a website….

http://www.shirleyoakssurvivorsassociation.co.uk/

This is the description of who they are and what they represent….

Shirley Oaks Survivors Association

Hundreds of people who have suffered abuse at the hands of a Lambeth Children’s Home have formed an action group (Shirley Oaks Survivors Association) which aims to get justice for the many that have been sexually, mentally and physically abused whilst in the supposed care of Lambeth Social Services. The abuse suffered at The Shirley Oaks Children’s Home over a period of years dating from the 1950s to 1983 was the catalyst for the endemic sexual abuse that later spread across the UK.

7000 children passed through the gates of Shirley Oaks, which was situated on a site which was approximately 70 acres in size, complete with its own school, swimming pool, works depot and a doctor’s surgery. For most vulnerable children aged between 2 -14 years, it was easy to believe they had been sent to an outpost of heaven. Lush green fields surrounded the village style setting with houses branching off the enclosed ring road which for many would end up being a road paved to hell.

Whether you suffered abuse or not was a lottery depending on which house you were sent to – your fate was sealed. Behind the closed doors of a Victorian style care system was a Victorian style ethos. Children should be seen and not heard and can be abused and not listened to. In the early sixties this seemingly picturesque environment became a breeding ground for predators as they drove their cars around offering sweets and other inducements looking to seduce their vulnerable prey.

The Shirley Oaks Survivors Association (SOSA) is a support group that has been set up to listen and document the accounts of those who have suffered or witnessed a variety of horrific abuse whilst in care in Lambeth Children’s Homes.

Acclaimed author Alex Wheatle, a victim of abuse whilst in the Lambeth Care system states, ‘We have been forced to form this group because of the failures to take our allegations seriously. We would like to see those who have committed these crimes and those who have failed in their care of duty to extremely vulnerable children, to be made responsible and accountable for their abject neglect’.

This group of survivors got together and did a video entitled “Don’t Touch It. It’s Mine”, in order to bring awareness of what happened to the lot of them when they were in this “children’s home of horrors” and that link can be found here….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtonOmIvS_I

And they are getting a lot of attention… like this link will show….

http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Child-abuse-survivors-appear-video/story-28384229-detail/story.html

So when you consider this- Burton’s assumption that all the claims into the ritual abuse of children have been disproved and are over are OBVIOUSLY false. And saying this- while also claiming that she and her group are the only real advocates is nothing but deceptive.

In Australia- the claims have not been diminished either. Cardinal Pell- who just went before the Royal Commission in Australia- didn’t claim that the orchestrated abuse of children didn’t happen but that he didn’t care enough to get involved with stopping it- although he is THIRD in charge of the Vatican. But comedian Tim Minchin and his video Come Home (Cardinal Pell) shows that this issue is far from over. As of this morning- his video has gotten 1,377,063 hits already, which shows that people are AWARE of the lies being told. The link to this video is here…

https://youtu.be/EtHOmforqxk?list=FLRx10uYGACpQNLfY3SpzYXQ

In America- these issues are coming forward as well- as Spotlight won the Oscar’s out of nowhere- and the fact that Lady Gaga’s performance of her song “Till It Happens to You” at the Oscar’s, that got not only a standing ovation but tears from the audience of A listers, keeps getting removed from YouTube. Why? Because it empowers survivors to come forward, and this government group of trolls who are trying to contain this issue don’t want that. Even so- they couldn’t prevent the mass media from reporting on it…

ABC news…

https://youtu.be/66UG34J6Alw

CBS news….

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oscars-2016-lady-gaga-performs-touching-tribute-to-rape-victims/

Entertainment Tonight…

https://youtu.be/cVaZJntcdig

Even Vice President Joe Biden got involved- who introduced Lady Gaga, who said ALL abuse survivors need to be listened too…

https://youtu.be/larGwthg_Wc

So how have these allegations of ritualized sexual abuse been quieted? Burton seems like she is full of shit- and nothing she said in her post was anything but bullshit. But it shows where this “survivor advocate” and her group stands concerning victims of ritualized childhood sexual abuse. She is an “advocate” while stating that it never happened. Wow- that is certainly helpful to survivors- don’t you all think? If one word could be used to describe her and her group- IT CERTAINLY WOULDN’T BE HONEST. These allegations have not been put to rest- as she asserts- but rather- momentum to expose this mess is BUILDING- despite the actions of her and her group. And they haven’t quieted- either in the UK, Australia- nor the US.

Why they are trying to trash Fiona Barnett’s chance to come to America is because this group doesn’t want survivors nor their supported efforts to be fueled- and they certainly don’t want this mess of ritualized child abuse to be connected globally. That is why these attacks on Fiona and her character are being waged, and anyone who looks at it honestly can see that this is EXACTLY what is happening and why.

So please- help Fiona Barnett get to the US so that she can talk and tell her HONEST experiences to clinicians, survivors, and their advocates so that this mess of openly and BLANTANTLY hurting children can be exposed and stopped. Here is the link to her GoFundMe account…

https://www.gofundme.com/FionaBarnett-US

A Reply to the Death Threat I Recieved on Easter 2016

https://youtu.be/UJOpGgUdxPY

I put both links in as they are doing their best to silence me by screwing with everything I do online.

Till It Happens To You- Lady Gaga’s 2016 Oscar’s Performance

I am usually not a Lady Gaga fan but this performance is POWERFUL!! Our time as abuse survivors is HERE- and it is obviously scaring the shit out of our abusers.

https://youtu.be/m5Zrk8dywtl

For some reason this keeps getting taken down. Hmmmmm, I wonder why. Not really though. The video is still up, but they aren’t allowing it to play on my site so just use the link and watch the video from there….

A “Veiled” Threat Sent to Me This Easter

I personally think this is Doug Mesner/satanist Lucien Greaves. It certainly is his writing style- and I have been dealing with this idiot for years so I recognize his style. The previous part of this conversation in the previous post…

Denise Matteau

10:34 AM (58 minutes ago)

to me
Well, I hope you enjoyed your little tantrum. I never said that cults
and conspiracies are not real. I also did not say that Columbine was
not real. You said that you were told that my colleague Tom White was
killed because he was investigating Columbine. I know for a fact that
he was not involved in any such investigation. As for Mesner, it is a
fact that he was working as a professional journalist for a recognized
news journal before he went so far into his satanic practice that he
became something disgusting. I know also that he was involved in a
satanic group before he left the Examiner and this was worrisome
because he was beginning to confront the facts about White’s death and
several other related cases. Mesner’s work as a journalist on that
case was professionally objective in spite of his beliefs, cult
practices, whatever you want to call them. I don’t respect him at all.
He faced the facts about the murder of Tom White and abandoned his own
humanity rather than complete his work as a journalist.

If you are still reading, consider this: A parachutist is confronting
the force of gravity. Gravity will kill him if he screws up. But he
does not think about gravity. He thinks about the wind, the height and
speed of the aircraft, and he times his jump and his movements
accordingly. If he pays attention to gravity, he screws up and gravity
kills him. If he ignores gravity but pays attention to his own
actions, he lives and gravity doesn’t matter. As it is with gravity,
so it is with cults. They are real and they are deadly to those who
throw themselves at them without any intelligent skills or
preparation. But to those who equip themselves properly and then jump,
cults and gravity don’t matter.

Think long and hard about the seriousness of Brick, Mesner, and that
entire death cult that is based in Massachusetts (altho certainly
national in scope) and feel free to renew this conversation anytime.CaptureCapture2Capture3

Seemingly More Games from the Pedophile Protection Squad

Denise:

Hello Dave, thank you for taking some time to consider my questions. I
know you are extremely concerned about the growth of pedophilic crime
we see today and I share that concern. I am a retired artist who was
asked to work with a multi-agency group in the 1990’s that was looking
for ways to train police forces to investigate pedophilic and other
ritual crimes more effectively. I was an activist in the home-school
movement who wrote curriculum plans to help families meet state
education requirements. My work put me in a position to notice
patterns that interested Capt. White, who was in charge of the
training group. Neil Brick wanted his group, S.M.A.R.T. , to be
included in the training program on a professional footing equal to
the various police agencies that were participating. That did not go
over very well. I am working on a history of what happened between
Brick’s group and Capt. White as part of a larger study of the
organized pedophilia problem and its growth in the last 25 years. Any
factual account you can give me about Neil Brick’s contacts with Capt.
White will be very helpful. 🙂

Me:

Hey Denise,

Capt. White was before me- I attended the SMART conference after- but I can tell you that after you sent me the info about the situation and I published it- Brick had a melt down. He claimed that he didn’t know White- and that he was not involved in any way. I was concerned after you told me that Brick was working with the cult and helping to get survivors back into the sex trade- and went after Brick pretty hard. In the end- he turned most of the survivor community leaders against me and they ended up writing a letter of recommendation for Brick which they all signed. I have come to the conclusion- knowing what I do of Brick and his argument with Doug Mesner/satanist Lucien Greaves- that they are working hand in hand with each other and that this whole thing was a set up to set Brick apart from the satanists. Brick has done HUGE damage to the survivor community- when the NATRC was first started- we had over 300 members- but Brick- SINGLE HANDEDLY- drove everyone away- and now it is totally defunct. At the time there was a core group of us who debated whether he has Asperger Syndrome- but I think that this was done intentionally, He lied about knowing White- completely denied what you told me- but this does not surprise me- as I was constantly catching him in lies all the time. I think that Brick is a plant- and that he is working IN LEAGUE with the cult and not against them- and that his whole SMART conference was to draw survivors out. He was trying to set himself up as the LEADER of the survivor community- but now that has become impossible. He got involved with Survivorship- and now they don’t even have a board from what I understand. However- SMART is fading away. He has done so much damage to so many people that he can’t get more than 50 people to attend his conference anymore- and most just ignore him now. When I went to talk at the SMART conference- which I did twice- Brick would say my experiences are “alleged” and he went out of his way to promote Nick Bryant- who is doing his best to control the narrative of the Franklin Credit scandal which happened in Omaha. They are working IN LEAGUE with each other- as I said. Brick and I hate each other- I can’t stand the prick- excuse my language- and I certainly was not going to follow him across the street- let alone anywhere else. I ended up taking down my posts about him and White- after great pressure from the survivors I knew. Interesting thing though- he never really dealt with my accusations- but rather did his best to try and trash me personally to prevent anyone from listening to me. I am not surprised that Brick wanted to be treated as an equal- as his job is to infiltrate and trash anything that helps the survivors. He did his best to trash Ivory Garden- the ONLY REAL survivor support group that exists- and went out of his way to try and keep Felicity from having a conference. Didn’t work- but he tried- HARD. White also investigated the Columbine shooting from what I understand- and that is what got him killed. (I don’t believe that he “fell” down a flight of stairs by himself. Brick is a bad guy as far as I can see- and I am glad that his time of influence has come to an end in the survivor community.

I hope this helps. I am sorry that I can’t offer more- but if you have any more questions- please feel free to ask. I am sorry that it has taken me so long to get back to you. I think that the work you are doing is VITAL to survivors safety and if I can offer any assistance- please don’t hesitate to ask.

Denise:

Hi, TY for the quick reply. I’m curious about Brick’s meltdown after
seeing your posts about Capt. White. I saw the posts in your blog
shortly before contacting you in Facebook. Can you tell me the dates?
And would it be possible to copy me some of Brick’s remarks?

As far as Columbine is concerned, I’m pretty sure Capt. White was not
investigating that. It was too close to the time he died and his
training was with State Police forensics. His investigations were
within professional parameters. One of the problems we all face with
the “survivor community” is that they are for the most part
unprofessional, thus unaware of the rules that agencies follow, and
they are often so emotionally invested in their own experience that
they are willing to speculate about cases and are prone to unrealistic
conspiracy theories. In fact, it was not Brick himself who presented
an obstacle to the training group’s work, but this more general
problem of professional boundaries and practices.

Take Mesner, for example. When he was working for the Boston Examiner,
he followed very professional guidelines as a journalist, which
prevented his interest in neopagan satanic ideas from compromising his
work. But when the Boston Examiner refused to back him up against
Brick, he lost the professional structure that he’d depended on, and
so he apparently sacrificed his own career to go into this satanic
religious stuff. I’m not dismissing your thoughts about cults and
conspiracies. These things are real, but they serve mostly to distract
and disinform. Ultimately, what matters is not who conspired but who
took action. That cannot be discovered by speculating about cults and
conspiracies.

You say White was before your time, but apparently he was still being
talked about. That interests me. I’d like to know more about that.
Another thing: Bobbi Gagne. Does her name ring a bell with you? She
was a member of S.M.A.R.T. who was involved with White on some
speaking engagements in the late 90’s. Can you tell me anything about
her?

🙂

Me:

No, I didn’t keep Brick’s remarks- personally cause I didn’t care. They were all defensive- along with personal attacks on me- and I didn’t bother to get involved. Do your research- google my name and Bricks- it might come up. I took my stuff down- I think Brick did too. But personally I have better things to involve myself in.

As far as being too emotionally involved- thanks but your wrong. John DeCamp was the investigator into Columbine. I know this for a fact because I had all 8 boxes of his files on Columbine in my dining room and was able to look through them. White may have been there on his own volition- I can’t say. Again- nor did I care. But I am well aware of Columbine- have gone and spent two weeks in Denver myself- and met with many of the people. I find that cults and conspiracies are real- the Catholic Church is a perfect example of a large scale conspiracy. Funny- those involved- like Cardinal Pell- also use your argument that the info that people know are meant to distract and disinform. However- in my opinion- their lies are more of a distraction and disinfo than the victims and what they have to say. The reason why these type of situations are allowed to go on is because of arguments like the one you just presented. Believe the accused- not the victims.

Mesner is NOT professional. He and Brick are cut from the same cut of cloth. They both are ego maniacs who believe they are smarter than everyone else. He lies- just like Brick. And his best friend Shane Bugbee has said that he is working for the CIA. He is obsessed with sex- and can’t do shit without the support of his friends. He and his friends- and I am talking about Mesner- attack like wolves- anyone they think might be vulnerable. And the brainiac built an 8 ft devil statue that not only do people don’t want- but he has to hide because so many want to destroy it. All to get media attention. Along with pulling his dick out in front of cameras and getting it all over the web. It is sad and so are both Brick and Mesner. But I find it interesting that you have so much respect for him. You even sound as if you are making him into a victim.

I have answered your questions- however- this last email has confirmed what I already expected. I am not aware of any Bobbie- so I have no info on that.

Thanks for your interest- but I think that we are done now. I know I am.

🙂

Crowdfunding Campaign for Fiona Barnett

https://www.gofundme.com/FionaBarnett-US

Fiona Barnett is an Australian who has been incredibly active supporting victims of child abuse in her country and has been an
active voice in victims rights in her country. She was the victim who brought charges against Anthony Kidman- Nicole Kidman’s father- which resulted in his suicide two months later. She has been on the national media in Australia and has worked extensively for getting justice to other victims of child abuse.

She now has the opportunity to fly to the US and speak at the national 2016 Seattle Trauma and Dissociation Conference- which can be found…https://www.igdid.org October 7-11, 2016. She is also meeting with a professional film maker from LA to work on a joint documentary with David Shurter- who is a victim of child abuse in the United States. She is planning on coming for the month of October- and the money will be used to pay for her airfare and for her lodging.

Money for the plane ticket is needed asap- as earlier bookings are cheaper- and the rest will be used during her stay in America.

Fiona is a powerful voice for the victims of child sexual abuse and ritual abuse, and coming to America will effectively bring the issues of child abuse of Australia and connect them to the same types of issues in the United States. Having a chance to speak to clinicians,survivors, and survivor advocates- will help in educating everyone to the serious issues of global child abuse that pervades our world. Her speaking at the 2016 Trauma and Dissociation Conference will help clinicians understand how victims are able to break their mind control programming as well as helping other survivors find a voice and have hope for healing. This is an amazing opportunity for everyone- and will give the chance to change the scope of these problems through education and her sharing her personal journey, enlightening and giving hope to all those who are facing the same sort of issues.

However, this will not be possible without each of your generous help and support. This is an amazing opportunity- not just for Fiona Barnett- who will be able to share her knowledge and personal experience- but for all those who are able to hear and learn from her.

Thank you for each of you who choose to help- and it is our hope that we quickly reach our goal so that all of this will be able to go
forward.

Check out her first documentary on YouTube… https://youtu.be/ZtZpaP96ClM

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Clarification on My Personal Experiences With the Omaha NE Pedophile Child Trafficking Ring

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