I have decided to have Amazon remove all of my comments from Amazon- as it seems to me that I have been baited into inane conversations for far too long- and I have to agree that my comments have been less than becoming as a caring individual. Although I stand by the things that I have said on the site- I feel that it doesn’t help survivor’s feel empowered when they see this constant fight happening between myself and a group of people who have nothing but malice intent. It was also time consuming- and now that I have removed myself from this fight on Amazon with the FMS Pedophile Squad, I no longer feel compelled to waste the hours of time that it was taking fighting fights that simply could not be won. As survivors, we must choose our battles- and it has been my experience that when they have no one to fight with- they just constantly talk to themselves- so it will prove to be much more interesting- and much less time consuming on my part.

I don’t want anyone to think that I am abandoning the cause- but my job at Amazon is done- and I don’t see a need to keep talking when very few people are reading and keeping abreast anyway. My blog and internet radio show is much more productive- and that is where I will be focusing my time and effort.

Thanks for the understanding- but now that I have been told that my constant bickering makes me look unfavorable- it is time to change tactics and go back to why I originally got involved with this- and that is to empower survivor’s enough to tell their stories. Battling the other side DOES NOT fulfill this objective- and so it is time to change course.

Speaking about the targeting that survivor’s are facing-

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=123756&cmd=tc

Episode 15

I am perplexed at the events that are occurring on Amazon concerning a simple book entitled 22 Faces, by Judy Byington, and the actions of those who stand against it. Taking the form of something much bigger than a simple book review, this group- led by anonymous posters such as Critthink and Douglas, (who- in my opinion- is the biggest fricking sissy I have ever dealt with- a self-satisfied habitual liar who uses his constant criticisms to set himself above and apart from any and all situations), have gone out of their way to post private personal info in every form they can on anyone who would stand against them. Anyway- what they have done is invasive and borders on downright scary- which is the whole name of the game in that I believe that they believe if they scare enough survivor’s from coming forward- that their job as so called “skeptics” will be much easier. Just what am I speaking about? Let me give an example…

I have spoken about Judy Byington before and how this group stopped a book signing of hers at Costco, but it goes beyond that. They have tried to access and post any personal info on her that they can, and on other “skeptic” websites such as Randi.org, they laugh and brag how they have not only been able to access Judy’s children, but also how they have been able to influence Jenny’s son- Jenny being the person who 22 Faces is written about. Jenny is incredibly fragile from the “skeptics” point of view- and so they laugh and brag at how they are causing problems between Jenny and her son, all the while they go on and on about how they are trying to “save humanity” from another “witch hunt”. However, it doesn’t stop there by a long shot.

In the past week or so, CritThink and the sissy Douglas, along with a biker dude named Karmakaze- have gone out of their way to expose and publically condemn another poster by the name of Felicity Lee. A victim of abuse- who changed her name twenty years ago to escape from her abusers- this group has systematically exposed every bit of personal info that they could find on Felicity- saying that since she was public it was their “right” and “obligation”. Of course- this group cries “FOUL” any time Felicity has responded to protect herself- and considering that this is a book review- she shouldn’t have to. Posting links to pictures and video of her granddaughter dancing, using her real name (which they use over and over as an intimidation technique), they have done their best to endanger a victim in order to “win” their argument. Going far beyond simply critiquing a book- this group has set itself up as judge and jury- and basically feels that any and every victim who comes forward reporting abuse should expect to suffer them. Showing that they will stop at nothing to achieve their goals- I don’t think that discussing a book is their prime objective more than it is to promote this campaign of intimidation and fear to keep other, weaker victims from feeling empowered enough to tell their stories. This is being done INTENTIONALLY and with MALICE in my opinion, and one needs to wonder why.

From the investigations others have sent me- it seems to me that the CIA and the False Memory Foundation are linked. For those of you who don’t know what the False Memory Foundation is- it is a group of people- some who were accused of pedophilia- who organized a campaign to stand against allegations of satanic ritual abuse and ritual abuse in general in the public and private sectors in order to prevent- what they consider- a witch hunt. I say there are no real witches involved- and it is a group designed by pedophiles for pedophiles and is exalted by every pedophile in the world. Standing up for the accused- it touts that memories can’t be recalled- but they can be implanted. Doing their best to scare victims and therapists alike- they have gone on a national spree, suing therapists and effectively denying those who need it most professional help. Of course- then there are those they just simply out- like Felicity- so that a victim who would come forward is frightened from doing so. It is a highly effective and pervasive campaign of intimidation, and their reach seems to be all over the internet, which tells me that it definitely could have government backing. (Not saying that CritThink or the sissy Doug are CIA- because I believe they are only wannabes like satanic rally throwing Doug Mesner/Misicko, but from what I have seen on Randi.org, there seems to be others who are behind the scenes giving direction and advice).

If the claims of victims of satanic ritual abuse are so bogus- I do not see a reason why there is this concerted effort to prevent us from telling our experiences. There is a good deal of EFFORT being made to keep claims like this down- and I have to wonder why- esp. considering how vast the numbers seem to be of victims connecting Satanism with our governments well known project MKUltra. Could the CIA be involved with keeping this down? It has been my experience that the answer to this is “DAMN STRAIGHT”. The American governmental system will do anything it can to keep situations- esp. like what happened here in Omaha- well within the concepts of conspiracy theories, just like the Catholic Church tried to do for years when it was covering its behind from allegations of priests being pedophiles. Considering the implications if all of this ever exposed- it is not only LOGICAL- but SENSIBLE.

But for right now- I just wanted to show what this group is doing- and to tell survivor’s that all is not lost. Knowing your enemy is key to winning the battle- and the fact that the “other side” is sending out Call to Action letters and fighting double time (like CritThink- who doesn’t seem to have a job considering the time she spends at the computer on Amazon), it tells me that for the first time, our side is making progress. Our situations WILL become known- and our detractors will be forced out into the light eventually- so have no worries. Keep telling your stories- writing your experiences- and sharing with others what you went through. I assure you that the rest of the world is starting to take an interest, and it will only be a matter of time before the truth of the matter is brought to the forefront. Why? Because even taking the hits that she has- there are survivors like Felicity who remain on the battle front fighting for survivor’s and the right to justice and peace. It is my hope that eventually- ALL OF US will join her.

I must admit that these past months have been incredibly rough on me, and I often ask myself why I keep doing what I am doing when it seems as if I am making absolutely no progress in having my father and his crimes against children investigated. Even with all that is happening in the world with the allegations concerning Jimmy Savile coming out in the UK and Pennsylvania’s Attorney General Kathleen Kane setting up an investigation into Penn State to see why the allegations took so long to surface concerning Sandusky, I find it hard to keep believing that this mess in Omaha will ever come to light in any meaningful way, and I often contemplate walking away and just living my life. However, as crazy as it sounds, it is my faith that keeps me from giving up the ghost.

You see, I truly believe that the sins of the father fall upon the shoulders of the son, and as such- it is my obligation to do whatever I can to try and exonerate my father from his sins. The only way to do that is to expose what he is guilty of and bring it into the light so that that healing can begin from the harm that was done. This is the whole reason I began this “crusade” and it is also the reason that keeps me fighting long after others would have given up. A true to life tale of David verses Goliath, the forces that I am up against are concentrated, organized, and vast as I am battling not only the crimes of my father, but others who were instrumentally involved who have a great deal of money, power, and influence and are still alive, well, and viciously fighting to keep all of my concerns from ever seeing the light of day. Just like what we have seen in the Penn State case, the reason why none of these allegations have surfaced is because there was an overall cover up- for whatever reason, although I believe that Penn State and the enabling of Sandusky has to do with the same issues of child prostitution and trafficking that were going on here in Omaha at one point in time. If indeed the rumors are true- and Aaron Swartz was onto the same kind of problem based at MIT, then these issues did not stop in the 80s and 90s but went underground and grew in complexity. It is because of these concerns that I feel compelled by my faith in God to try and keep going with what I am doing, not because I have any personal gain in the situation but because, fundamentally- I believe that children need to be protected- and it is my belief in God and Heaven’s mandate to protect children that compels me to keep fighting this fight.

We all have a personal relationship with our maker- for those who believe there is a maker, and although many of our views do not always coincide with each other, it doesn’t make any of our relationships with God any less valuable. God speaks to each of us differently, and each of us has our own destiny that we are here to complete. As someone who believes that God is Everything and Everywhere, it has been my experience that when one begins to listen to the voice of God- Heaven never stops singing, and it is this celebration of faith that empowers me to keep moving forward even on those days that I would rather just give up.

On the battlefield- or really anywhere you find yourself, in everything that you do- always remember to leave a place for God to work- which is something I learned a long time ago. I am only one man, and I can’t hope that I can stop child trafficking on my own- but I believe if I raise my voice loud and long enough- that people will recognize the truth in what I am trying to present. My family has been incredibly evil in the past, but I HAVE TO BELIEVE that some good can come from the atrocities that my family is guilty of. It is this reason why I will continue to endure the criticisms and detrimental personal commentaries from those who sit in the peanut gallery, who conspire to manipulate social consensus for whatever reason, on a problem that DEFINITELY needs to be re-looked at.

(On a personal note, I have good reason to believe that one of those I am battling on Amazon is none other than Debbie Nathan herself- which, considering her tenacious involvement in putting her detractors down on her Facebook account and blog, would make sense that she would get involved with others who would express a different view on satanic ritual abuse and our governments involvement with the MKUltra project. It is also interesting that the False Memory Foundation is gearing up the way it has – sending out a Call to Action Letter. Sides are definitely being chosen and opposing camps are forming).

Debbie Nathan shared a link.
April 15, 2012
Sybil Exposed on Amazon just got its 100th reader review! Thanks to all who have taken the time to do one, and to those — including my loyal band of three trolls — who have, collectively, written thousands of comments. http://www.amazon.com/Sybil-Exposed-Extraordinary-Multiple-Personality/product-reviews/143916827X/ref=dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

I would like to remind people that my memories were not repressed- I have never been diagnosed with Dissociative Identity Disorder, and though I can only speak for my experiences-there is more than enough evidence in my opinion that there are SERIOUS issues dealing with Omaha that have yet to be honestly looked at. This is the new False memory Foundation Call to Action letter that was sent to me today, and I thought I would share it.

Thanks for your time.

David Shurter
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FMSF Call to Action Letter

Most members of the FMSF can recall the earlier days of this phenomenon, when claims of repressed memory and multiple personalities were mainstays on network television. In 1990, the media was replete with such stories: George Franklin was convicted of murder that year based on the repressed and recovered memories of his adult daughter; Mark Peterson was convicted of rape for having gotten consent from only one of his date’s multiple personalities; and Oprah Winfrey spotlighted Truddi Chase’s story of repressed abuse and resulting “troop” of 92 alters. Soon, other daytime talk shows competed to host the therapists who specialized in unveiling these previously untold abuses and every soap opera seemed to have a character recovering memories in the plotlines.

Over the next decade, we witnessed a tremendous swing in the portrayals of recovered memory. As convictions based on this theory were overturned and lawsuits levied against the practitioners, skepticism worked its way into the popular culture. Investigative news programs and documentaries such as Ofra Bikel’s “Divided Memories”provided viewers with a better understanding of the complex issues involved.
Are we now seeing another shift in media portrayals? While we have continued to have positive outcomes in the courts, there appears to be an up-surge of pop culture interest with claims of repressed memory and multiple personalities. Some, but not all, of these portrayals are being openly challenged by the viewing public who demand skepticism even when it is not apparent in the original broadcast.
J. Bean
Recovered memory in recent Popular Culture
DR. DREW PINSKY
Last October, celebrity MD “Dr. Drew” interviewed actress/song writer Gloria Loring about her new book Coincidence is God’s Way of Remaining Anonymous. Dr. Drew concentrated on Loring’s disclosure of having recovered repressed memories of sexual abuse.
Dr. Drew is best known as an addiction counselor to the Stars. He received his MD from the Keck School of medicine at USC and now teaches psychiatry there. With that in mind, his comments on the show regarding “body memories”* are particularly disturbing:
Dr. Drew: “You’re describing something that happens specific to very young sexual abuse survivors because their body becomes the source of the distress. And so the body becomes dangerous and painful. And a lot of people with chronic pain have experienced this because the body then is disconnected from your ‘self’, from your brain, and in order for it to tell its tale of woe, it can only do it through primitive means like pain, and numbness, and dissociations.”
When a caller starts talking about having “body memories”, Dr. Drew nearly interrupts with “Yeah! Yes. Yes”. After the call, he follows up with “People think that there’s got to be an explicit memory, you know, like a visual memory of what happened. No. It’s the imprint it leaves on your body and nervous system.”
* Body Memories: The theory that the body will remember what the mind forgets. In recovered memory therapy this concept ranges from belief that a physical abreaction is evidence of hidden memories to a belief that traumatic memories can be literally stored in cells throughout the body rather than in the brain.
ANDERSON COOPER
(Thank you to all who took the time to contact the Anderson Cooper Live Show with your complaints about this content.)
On January 2, 2013, The Anderson Cooper Live show featured what promised to be an “exclusive” interview with a woman who “breaks her silence” about having developed multiple personalities as a result of childhood abuse.
This content turned out to be neither “exclusive” nor a breaking of “silence”. Instead, it was yet another platform for artist Kim Noble to highlight her claims of Satanic Ritual Abuse, allegedly revealed to her after years of treatment with therapist Valerie Sinason.
According to this 2008 video about Noble, “Kim has no memory of possible violence during her childhood. She was told she was abused as a child but doesn’t want to know.”
Kim Noble seemed to be back down to around 20 personalities from her reported 100 or so when she interviewed with the UK’s Guardian in 2011. This discrepancy was not covered in her Anderson Copper interview, nor was her therapist’s outright dismissal of other possible reasons for Noble’s lapses in memory:
From All of Me by Kim Noble:
Noble: “I drink a lot.”
Sinason: “Do you?” Because I don’t think you do.”
Narrator (Noble) “That was interesting. I’d been thinking for ages that I didn’t really drink as much as I thought. But how else, then, could I explain the gaps in my memory?”

Noble’s book was offered free to select viewers of the Anderson Cooper Live Show.
JIMMY SAVILE
Jimmy Savile is a UK radio and television celebrity who has long been plagued with accusations of child molestation. While there were several investigations during his lifetime, the number of accusations has reached extraordinary proportions since his death in 2011. According to some reports, Savile is now the subject of over 450 allegations.
Just days after the airing of the Anderson Cooper Live Show with Valerie Sinason’s patient Kim Noble, news broke that Jimmy Savile had been involved in Satanic Rituals. These new allegations came by way of the repressed memories of other Valerie Sinason clients.
If these claims prove to be unfounded, then they have done nothing but distract investigators and take needed attention away from any possible true victims.
NBC – Do No Harm
On January 31st, a new drama aired on NBC entitled Do No Harm. The show appears to be the fictional account of a neurosurgeon who suffers from Multiple Personality (Dissociative Identity) Disorder. According to David Schulner the show’s creator it is a “sexy wild fun ride” displaying the dual characters of a serious neurosurgeon and his devious alter as a modern day Jekyll and Hyde.
DR. PHIL MCGRAW
On January 11, 2013, the Dr. Phil Show aired an episode about Mentally Ill Moms which featured a mother with supposed multiple personalities.* The woman, known as Jenny Hill, is the subject of the book Twenty-Two Faces and was joined on the show by her son Robert Steffen and by the book’s author Judy Byington. (Snippets of the conversation can be found at the bottom of the *linked website. Please take a moment to view this content.)
In the book, Jenny is a victim of Dr. Greenbaum – the Jewish Nazi described in Corydon Hammond’s infamous 1992 speech.
Dr. Phil (to Jenny Hill): “So tell me how you’re doing. Let’s forget about these guys for a minute.”
Jenny Hill: “Um, I just heard new news.”
Dr. Phil: “What was your news that you heard.”
Jenny Hill: “Well, the Nazi thing I don’t understand at all. I’ve never ever been approached about a Nazi thing in my family so I don’t know where that’s coming from.”
Dr. Phil (to Judy Byington): “You talk about her being programmed by a Nazi mind control expert.”
Judy Byington (to Jenny Hill): “Oh yeah. The old man that programmed you. That’s what I’m talking about. Yeah.”
Jenny Hill (nodding): “Ok. Oh yeah. Sure. True.”
(Perhaps this is quibbling over details, but at the time Jenny Hill’s abuse allegedly took place, Hammond’s Dr. Greenbaum would have been in his 30’s – hardly an “old man” even in the eyes of a little girl.)

As we announced in previous FMSF News Alerts, this show had been originally scheduled to air on October 31st, 2012. At that time, journalist Doug Mesner issued an Open Letter to Dr. Phil* regarding this up-coming content and a lengthy discussion ensued via the James Randi Educational Foundation’s (JREF) online Forum. The show was suddenly postponed, then announced again in January.
(*Mesner’s Open Letter elicited some bizarre anti-Semitic responses.)

Following the Dr. Phil episode, Byington’s book took a beating in theAmazon.com ratings and comments. Byington herself has commented on several of the negative ratings on that site.
When accused of practicing therapy without a license, Byington says she was never Jenny Hill’s therapist – a claim that is belied in videosposted by her publisher.
INSIGHTS FROM THE SON OF A RECOVERED MEMORY PATIENT
Dr. Phil McGraw may have inadvertently turned his show on its head by including Jenny Hill’s son, Robert Steffen.
Many of our membership have grandchildren with whom they’ve lost all contact following “the accusation”. Worries about the well-being of those grandchildren and what they may have come to believe regarding their heritage are frequently expressed concerns by those accused. A handful of FMSF families are now regaining contact with those now-adult children of past RMT patients — such as was noted in the Letter from a French Family in our November 21, 2012 News Alert.
Although Robert obviously cannot speak to the truth of his mother’s childhood experiences, he did know his grandparents and was witness to changes in his mother following her MPD/DID diagnosis. He has added many of his insights to his blog:
“Despite her handicap, my mom has always, always tried to be a good mom. Even when she was at her most difficult to take, most difficult to deal with, or her most damaging to me as a person and as a son, she has always tried her best to be a good mom”.
“But my mom, if nothing else, is a lot to take in. She’s often blunt, direct and graphic, to the point of leapfrogging over and into people’s strongest discomfort zones.” … “It isn’t that she’s out to deliberately offend people, not usually. It’s more that she just doesn’t perceive the borders where other people are comfortable, and when she’s crossing them. “
“And, also, my mom has very often been victim-prone and accusatory. She tends to see abuse everywhere, and in almost anyone.”
“Was there an original instance of abuse that broke her in this particular way, forcing her to seek a familiar horrible situation from her childhood again and again? Or was there never any abuse at all, and claims of abuse early in her life are just as false as the many abuses alleged and disproved or dismissed later in her life? I’ll never know the answer to that, not for sure.”
“And yet, I’ve seen the other side of this coin, where my mom’s allegations of abuse have been weaponized, used to hurt. The allegation of abuse carries as much weight as being found guilty in some eyes, and this is a very potent weapon to wield against someone.”
“Evidence is the key, the equalizer, and should be what everyone uses as their guide when deciding what to believe, and what not to believe. “
(Read more of Robert’s comments and insights at http://robsteffen.com/folio/ )
FMSF MEMBERS CALLED TO ACTION
The questions for us as FMSF members are, “When is it appropriate to take action?” and “What is the appropriate action to take?” when we find these subjects displayed in our popular culture.
NBC’s Do No Harm melodrama is fiction, and we certainly cannot expect to regulate the entire market of make-believe to adhere to scientific standards. Some FMSF members felt that it was unnecessary to respond to the Anderson Cooper Show because they no longer considered him credible due to unrelated hijinx. While the Dr. Phil show proved to be the least egregious of our examples, it had been challenged prior to its broadcast. Did this have an effect on the final edit? We may never know.
It’s important that we choose our battles carefully then respond in a way that brings the appropriate amount of skepticism into the discussion. When and how do you feel it is appropriate for the FMSF to issue a membership Call to Action on issues of repressed memory and multiple personality in the popular culture?
We are interested in your thoughts and ideas about this subject matter. Please add the subject line “FMSF Pop Culture ” to your response and if you do or do not wish for your comments to be added to a post on our upcoming (revamped) website. You may include a pseudo-name if you’d like your comment posted anonymously.
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Judy Byington’s Reply to What is Presented on the FMS Call to Action Letter...

1. On FMSF claims that 22 Faces Amazon sales were hurt because of one star reviews, the majority of which appeared after airing of the Dr. Phil show: Sales on Amazon for 22 Faces do not seem to have been hurt by the 51 1 star reviews (33 appeared within 48 hours of the Dr. Phil show). In fact, the 22 Faces Amazon rankings went straight up on the chart the day of the Dr. Phil show and have leveled out at the top ever since (his viewing audience is 43 million worldwide and the Utube video of the “Mentally Ill Moms” show averages 2,000 hits per day.
Dr. Phil “Mentally Ill Moms” on Utube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_CcKVgx9LA
2. On FMSF claims that Jenny’s son Robert is on their side: Jenny Hill had a complete physical exam mid-January 2013 where the doctor confirmed the same information as stated in the book: she has physical scars from childhood in her rectum and vaginal areas that coincide with her claims of childhood trauma. Robert was at the exam, was surprised at the doctor’s conclusion and related the information to other family members.
3. On FMSF claims of my publisher confirming that I act as Jenny’s therapist: the video they are referring to here is from the Dr. Phil show. When I realized the week of Jan. 11 2013 (when the show aired), that they were portraying me as Jenny’s therapist, I emailed the show producer and asked he change my title to “retired therapist.” He emailed back saying he changed my title to “retired therapist” on the Dr. Phil website, but couldn’t change my title on the actual show.
4. On FMSF claims that I made up that Jenny was mind-controlled by Dr. Greenbaum and that Greenbaum could not be the “Old Man” Jenny referred to in 22 Faces:
A. Jenny was 6 year old when she was mind-controlled by a person she referred to as the “Old Man.” I asked her why she called him the “Old Man.” She stated he appeared to be the same age as her father, Paul Hill. At the time both Dr. Greenbaum and Paul Hill were 39-40 years of age and at her age 6, evidently appeared “old.”
B. Jenny describes her mind-controller in the same way as clients describe Greenbaum in Corydon Hammond’s study: he was short, had balding brown hair, walked with a cane, had a limp in his left leg and bore a German accent.
C. Jenny was very nevous and on a high amount of medication when she appeared on the Dr. Phil show. She asked producers that I sit by her to explain things and help her understand what was being discussed.
If any of you have insights into parts of the below newsletter I’m sure people in this group would appreciate knowing about them. We are bound to see these points brought out at other points in time.

First off, not every bad review on Amazon has been an attack- but those that are have been of a personal nature, and it’s those that I wish to talk about. I believe that a majority of the bad reviews that I have received have come from an online group of False Memory advocates that I like to call the Pedophile Protector Squad, who are afraid that if people begin to look at the thousands of complaints of abuse that we might have another “witch hunt”. Of course- what we are talking about isn’t a group of Satanists so much as it is a collection of rich pedophiles who are making inordinate amounts of money on the child trafficking industry, so take it for what it is worth.

I have stated that I wrote Rabbit Hole for myself, in order to see my life in black and white so that I could make some sense of it- and the original manuscript was a little over 100,000 words, although the finished product- with everything that was removed and added by my marketing team, ended up being a little over 64,000 words. The point is that things were subtracted and not added like my group of critics would like to assert. I also didn’t elaborate on my abuse for a reason- that being that I have never fashioned myself a Quentin Tarantino nor a Stephen King, and what happened to me was not as important to me as what was happening AROUND me and in my life. At some point during this process however, it became a project with not just me in mind, but other survivors.

All of the boxes of info throughout the book were done independently from me by my marketing team- who took what I wrote, thoroughly researched it, and put corresponding news reports and articles throughout in order to help readers understand what I was talking about. For me personally- this was not as important to me as it was that survivor’s be able to identify with what I am saying, and hopefully being empowered by it. I think it is this aspect that makes my book so threatening to those who would assert that satanic ritual abuse and secret governmental projects are impossible and do not exist. My book is designed to draw out survivor’s and hopefully validate their experiences in their own minds enough that they are able to find the strength to come forward and relate their own experiences. There are so many of us- and our voices NEED to be heard in order to stop this and prevent it from happening to others in the future.

I offer no apologies for the spiritual perspective that I offer throughout the book- as it was my Shamanic practice that helped heal parts of myself that were desperately in need of it, and I simply wanted to relate my experiences so that others might find some help hearing what I have gone through. I also can’t apologize for the homosexual aspect of the book- as it was my lifestyle that allowed me the perspective that I have on situations surrounding Omaha- esp. considering that most of the child trafficking and abuse was centered in Omaha’s homosexual community. With that said, I also want to reiterate that I simply related my experiences as they happened- and I have no intention to find proof of those experiences, as I see no need, nor do I have any hope that it would change my critic’s minds.

Lastly- is it poorly written? That I can’t judge- but I can say that Douglas- who claimed he was a professor in Seattle, just told people on Amazon that he is really married with a child in Louisiana, and so again I believe this to just be a personal attack on me and nothing more. I articulated as eloquently and as pointedly as I could, and I guess that the reader will just have to judge for themselves, although I have been told more than once that it is incredibly well written. I just know that I have put my blood, sweat, and tears into this project in order to help other’s overcome what has happened to us- (which is why I am protective and willing to stand up for my work), and if one person is helped by what I have written, and thus far MANY PEOPLE have thanked me, then all of this chaos has been worth it in the end.

There is a second book in the works, more detailed in the abuse than Rabbit Hole has in it, and more about my relationship with those involved with this chaos- such as Noreen Gosch, Michael Aquino, and the False Memory Pedophile Protector Squad- but that won’t be done for a while- so for right now- Rabbit Hole is going to have to settle and hopefully satisfy for the time being. I thank all those who have offered support, and I am sorry for those who have left unsatisfied- but I offer nothing to the group who is blatantly attacking any and all victims who come forward on the internet and such- as I believe that your group is composed mostly of childish adults who want to make a name for themselves, and it has been my experience- as an old man- that karma can be harsh when it finally returns to your doorstep- so take it for what it is worth.

There has been some question as to my methodology as of late, and I wanted to take a moment and try to explain myself as best that I can. A dear friend of mine told me that I was the “guard dog for survivors”, and that is probably the best way to describe how I feel about not only my situation, but for the issues of satanic ritual abuse, ritual abuse, and governmental mind control as a whole. When I began this attempt to get my family investigated six years ago, I had no idea the systematic, organized control the other side has implemented in the past thirty years, and it has been this constant game playing, with everyone connected to situations in Omaha as well on the internet- that has caused my frustration, thus making me more and more tenacious. The difference between me and most survivors is that I was trained to be a pit bull, sinking my teeth into a problem and not letting go until I succeed in exposing it. As such- I am able to play the other side at their own games- and let me assure you- what I am involved with is definitely a game of strategy.

A commonality among survivors is this need for peace, and I realize that most of us have concluded that this mess has consumed us for long enough and therefore most of us do our best to go on with our lives, leaving the battle for someone else at some other time in the future. However, I decided against abdicating my responsibility to all of this a long time ago and decided that if no one else was going to stand up- then I would stand alone and fight against something that has ensnared so many lives that it is virtually incomprehensible to realize the vastness of the situation. As such- I have found that every avenue of what happened here- not only in Omaha, or in America- but seems to be highly prevalent in the UK as well- is blocked with an organized group that seem to act like a distraction to prevent anyone from delving too far into the issues surrounding mankind’s history with satanic practices and organized government projects using fear and torture against ordinary citizens. Concerning Omaha-you have the Gosch camp and all the nonsense Noreen reports, along with local officials who will do absolutely nothing concerning reports of child abductions and murders. Online- you have websites such as Franklinfiles.net, which basically are sponge sites designed to attack and quiet any survivors who come forward with a different perspective than what is being promoted, and then you have the Doug “Mesner” type anons who are on Amazon attacking all survivors and promoting authors like Debbie Nathan- who on her blog has said that she believes that our nation is “too hysterical” concerning sex with children and that we need to “relax the laws” concerning adults having sex with children. All of this has proved to be incredibly frustrating- and I have begun to realize why no one has preceded me in all of this, or why those who have tried have always ended up dead. These people are NOT playing- as the implications for all of them should the truth ever come out has vast implications for all who are involved.

Although I am generally an incredibly personable and friendly individual- there is without a doubt a side to my personality that is comparable to biting down on a chunk of tinfoil. I grew up in a family that hated me, and so I am, by my own history, able to withstand constant criticisms from people who don’t have a clue as to who I am, as well as being able to dish out a good dose of my own blunt perspective, which those who fight with me don’t usually care for. However- there is a time for everything as it is said- and I truly believe that now is the time to TAKE A STAND. As such-I am going to fight back as needed to push back the lies and deceptions that have been a central part of all of this in any and every way that I think is necessary, and I have no intention of being bound by the conventionality of niceties and political correctness in doing this. Every reaction has an equal and opposite reaction, and it is time to bring all of this mess into the light and expose it for what it is and let the chips fall as they may.

With that said- I want to make it crystal clear to those who would think otherwise that my sights are set on Mr. Michael Aquino- and am not going to settle for some lackey little boy who believes he is some sort of overlord of the darkness who throws media events in the form of satanic rallies for Rick Scott in Tallahassee Florida with a minion of three young girls. Thus far – Aquino has done nothing but run from me, denying that we even knew each other in a court of law late last year although I have sent him countless emails and he undoubtedly knows who I am considering everything that I have done so far. Supposedly once head of the NSA for a time- founder of Temple of Set, psych ops extraordinaire and my “master”, (main handler), it is only a matter of time before you are unable to keep hiding from who you are and what you are guilty of- and it would behoove you to face me head on and hear what I have to say as the time for my silence is over. You know as well as I do that this event is inevitable, and as a past spokesperson and poster child for the False Memory Foundation- you and I will face each other eventually. Stop hiding behind children like Doug Mesner- and face me. With your vast education- and your prestigious career- I am not sure what your hesitation is- but then again- we both know that is a lie, and as eager as I am for a public confrontation, you feel the opposite. However- since you were instrumental in helping me to develop into the man that I am today, I feel obligated to thank you in person- on camera.

Notice the games that are being played and how the conversation is being manipulated. This is good stuff- thanks to the Anon Dougy.

Got to get used to it…, January 31, 2013
By
Douglas “College English professor who loves classic literature, psychology, neurology and hates pop trash like Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey.”
This review is from: Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story (Kindle Edition)
if you are going to buy self-published books on Amazon, there is a good chance that you are going to get bad writing and a cock-eyed story. That is exactly what you get here.

Initial post: Jan 31, 2013 4:06:52 PM PST
Douglas says:
Any personal attacks that are leveled at me by the “author” or anyone else because of this honest assessment will be reported immediately to Amazon.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2013 5:16:50 PM PST
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David Shurter says:
I’d rather deal with you on my blog at DavidShurter.com . There are MAJOR issues between this poster and I – and he is doing his best to harass and intimidate me- now with my own book. Douglas Mesner/Misicko never read this book- and actually- this review NEEDS to be reported. If this isn’t Mesner- he is someone heavily connected with the False Memory Foundation.

but just so people can see what kind of organization Douglas supports- here are a few facts about the False Memory society…

Look Below on my blog for this Info

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2013 5:29:27 PM PST
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David Shurter says:
New Post on DavidShurter.com

New Review of My Book By Douglas Mesner-

I have just gotten attacked by Doug Mesner on my book today- and I thought I would ask people to go to my book at

and feel free to comment on the review- or to Doug himself. I reported this offense to Amazon- but Mesner has cohorts on the web who are seeking to trash anyone who is trying to expose our abuse in the past. Here is the review- what he wrote- and what I responded…

Posted on Jan 31, 2013 5:57:33 PM PST
Judy Byington says:
In the first place, Douglas Misicko, you are NOT a college professor, but use aliases of CritThink/ Karmakazi/ AC2012/ Lucien Graves or Doug Mesner to call yourself Overlord of the Satanic Temple, a DJ on Radio Free Satan, plus are connected to the grandfather of Satanism Alister Crowley 2012 website, who openly brags about trying to cancel signings on my book “Twenty-Two Faces.” What is your purpose in trying to supress books like Rabbit Hole that exposes the abuse of children?

Posted on Jan 31, 2013 6:20:31 PM PST
Bryan Graczyk says:
Douglas, your rude comment is not is the spirit of a constructive criticism, but is little more than a condescending smear. I’m disappointed to see a self proclaimed “college professor” showing such tactlessness, insensitivity, and immaturity.

David Shurter’s writing, advocacy and support are helping people around the world who can corroborate these accounts of a type of abuse that is difficult to imagine, much less recover from.

Doug, if you do not agree with David’s work, I suggest you use your own gifts to develop a meaningful contribution to what you care about, instead of trying to tear others down. You only discredit yourself if you have nothing better to say.

In reply to an earlier post on Jan 31, 2013 6:28:18 PM PST
Sky Lover says:
Have you even read this book? Since you aren’t David Shurter, I’d love to see you bring forth evidence that his life did not happen!! Unless you can do that, you have no business discrediting his story. And unless you’ve read this book, you have no business writing a review about it. Please go back to your fmsf playground, where everyone will bow down to your lies and crown you king of the hill.

Posted on Jan 31, 2013 7:13:32 PM PST
His Sister says:
Your post reflects more of a personal attack more than anything else. If you are an English professor, than perhaps your “college” should reconsider their hiring choices. Your commentary is filled with spelling and grammatical errors.
As to the content, your commentary is all an Ad hominem fallacy. Really? Can’t you pick out individual arguments and offer your position? Why take this stance? Why the personal attacks?
For the record, I am David’s sister. I lived through much of what he described (insofar as the ritual abuse is described). Our experiences aren’t solitary experiences. There are many people here who have similar stories. In fact, much of this is common knowledge in Omaha. Perhaps, you might widen your area of research in to the topic.
I would also comment that David’s story in anecdotal. You cannot invalidate a person’s individual experience. This isn’t a research study. It’s his personal story, and thus, this book is David’s view of what happened from his point of view. Certainly, you have the right to make any assertions you would like, but take in to account that his book is not a documentary or a published journal article. Yes, David’s perceptions are rife throughout the book. That’s how anecdotal records work.
So, exactly what is your axe to grind????

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Douglas says:
I don’t know this Mischko or Mesner. And boy, you all seemed to take this VERY personally! I won’t even respond to these nonsensical rantings. I just genuinely thought the book was really bad. The first thing a writer is taught is “just because it is true doesn’t mean it’s good.” It certainly did not come off like a true story, but if on some planet it really is, it is not well related in this book. Why don’t you all go rag on the person who called this “rambling verbal vomit?” Sister… WOW!…this is from a definition of “anecdotal” from a dictionary: “…Anecdotal evidence is considered dubious support of a claim…” So, I guess we agree…the tale doesn’t come off as real…you practically say the story took place in David’s head… Either it really happened or didn’t. You CAN invalidate someone’s personal story if it didn’t happen or does not coincide with reality… This rambling thing does not seem to coincide with reality…Maybe it is reality just very poorly and distortedly related…

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David Shurter says:
The Attacks on Amazon Ensue

Look Below on my blog for this entry…

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2013 5:38:43 AM PST
Bryan Graczyk says:
Douglas, enough with the semantics. In a medical context, first-person (“anecdotal”) accounts can be considered suspect, because they may represent cherry-picking or not be representative.

From your quote source earlier (Wikipedia): ‘Although such evidence is not seen as conclusive, it is sometimes regarded as an invitation to more rigorous scientific study of the phenomenon in question.[13] For instance, one study found that 35 of 47 anecdotal reports of side effects were later sustained as “clearly correct.” ‘

If an account is anecdotal, the conclusion to take from it is that it more investigation needs to be done. It is not appropriate to simply decide right off the bat that the claim is bunk and pitch it. Wikipedia also notes that ‘the case report or statistical outlier cannot be dismissed as having no weight’. Just because David’s personal account is unusual and relatively rare, compared to the whole population (but is supported by thousands of independent accounts), does not make it false.

The irony is that you are making an argument based on your own personal experience, your anecdotal *perception* about what “does not coincide with reality”. Except that you’ve shown that you deliberately keep yourself in the dark about certain realities, refusing to weigh the evidence in an objective manner, so your opinion is uninformed and meaningless.

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Douglas says:
So anyone who doesn’t like these poorly written self-published books is a Satanist? And Bryan, if you are claiming a story involving real people is true, and the people are said to be involved in everything from Satanism to murder, you don’t want to be “anecdotal.” You better have evidence to back it up. According to DS’s own account, not even the police buy this story. That is the very problem with these books, all the way back to Sybil…they are fictionalized reality, if there is any reality to them at all…anecdotal. You would not want to be on the bad end of an anecdotal story, now would you? The fact that the author has slandered me all over the internet…actually slandered someone else he CLAIMS is me does not speak well for his credibility. He claims I am Mesner, “a boy,” and yet, a bit of fact checking would show that my account here is a dozen or more years old. Are his claims about who I am “anecdotal”?

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2013 10:20:15 AM PST
David Shurter says:
Douglas- you are an anon- In here and probably every where else. You speak about things you have no clue about as if you are an authority- when you are no such thing. Good try at your woo woo tactics- but many are seeing through it.

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Douglas says:
That doesn’t address the issues I raised. This seems to be the way you deal with reality, in the book and outside of it. Simply dismiss what you don’t want to see and make up the rest. If you are going to accuse people of murder, kidnapping and Satanic abuse, you had damn well better be able to do better than “anecdotal.” You accuse Mesner of being a Satanist BECAUSE HE VAGUELY LOOKS LIKE A PICTURE OF A SATANIST!…holy God, man! You are going to really get in some legal trouble some day with your “anecdotal”!……….. And seriously, I would have never even heard of “RH” or “22F” if you hadn’t come after me on another thread…claiming I was Mesner…more of your “anecdotal.”

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2013 10:52:55 AM PST
David Shurter says:
Still- there is more than even what is in the book. I am not going to argue your woo woo tactics- the fact remains no one knows who you are. And saying your not Doug or related to Doug in some fashion is basically to defy reasoning- esp. Considering your temperament throughout our conversations. Oh- and just so we are clear- there is NO DOUG MESNER- he is but another alias again.

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Douglas says:
Now Mesner doesn’t exist…o, boy… If he does exist, he could certainly sue you for what you have said about him in multiple public places… Your shotgun accusations of Satanism and pedophilia are going to get you into serious legal trouble at some point… Arguing about bad books is one thing…what you do is quite another… Judy Byington…you too… I could sue you for what you say above… You people are totally irresponsible in your personal attacks, saying that people are Satanists and pedophiles because they don’t like a book or argue with you…good way to end up with a liable/slander suit.

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Douglas says:
Shurter and Byington have both been reported for slander. Expect a mass removal of comments in a couple of days and maybe even a banning for repeated abuse. You want to argue about bad books, ok. You want to call people Satanists and pedophiles, expect consequences. And having your comments removed or getting banned will be light compared with the lawsuit someone will level against you one of these days. I hope Mesner does just that for your wild claims about him…

I am going to let Amazon handle this and go back to reviewing books. If you all want to follow me around every time I review a book, we can keep doing this. I would rather not.

In reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2013 12:41:53 PM PST
Bryan Graczyk says:
Somebody call the WAAAAH-mbulance for Doug!

You’re the one who came here, buddy. And it’s clear you’ve come to do nothing but pick a fight. If you want to clear the names of the accused, then call for a fair investigation… instead of trying to isolate and shout down individuals like David Shurter and Judy Byington.

A member of the British Parliament, Tom Watson, recently spoke out about “a widespread paedophile ring” that resembles the situation from David’s book:

“The leads were not followed up, but if the files still exist, I want to ensure that the Metropolitan Police secure the evidence, re-examine it, and investigate clear intelligence suggesting a powerful paedophile network linked to Parliament and No10.”

“The central ­allegation was that a large body of material seized in the raid on his home had not been fully investigated… Many sickening crimes will remain uninvestigated, and some of the most despicable paedophiles will remain protected by the Establishment that has shielded them for 30 years…”

There has also been a recent scandal where over a thousand alleged users of child pornography in the Pentagon went totally uninvestigated.

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Douglas says:
I merely reviewed a bad book…You all have been the ones to attack personally. Bryan…expect your comments to be removed for personal attack as well… Do not talk “fair” to me when someone is accused of being a Satanist and pedophile for negatively reviewing a bad book that wildly accuses with no demonstrated fact… Those are Hitler tactics… I also issue a call to many others who have been called Satanists and pedophiles because they dared to negatively review these “pseudo-psych” potboilers that now float off of every vanity press to issue a complaint to Amazon. We can argue bad books, but personal accusations have to stop, and only complaining of it will get it done.

And that’s great that Parliament caught bad people. But it does not make DS’s book any better. You mistake theme for good or plausible writing. It is not the same. And you mistake criticisms of bad writing for attacks on the public good. It is a ludicrous connection.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2013 12:52:41 PM PST
David Shurter says:
You would know Douglas- and besides- all the comments will be saved on my blog for posterity. So people will still be able to see what you have been saying. Even the title of your review was an attack- so before you go claiming to be this victim- realize that there are others who can argue just as effectively as you. And again- why are you able to spend all day at the computer typing insulting replies?

In reply to your post on Feb 1, 2013 1:15:23 PM PST
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Douglas says:
If I ever suffer even slightly for your (probably unread) blog, or anything else connected with you, Shutner…expect whatever legal rebuttal appropriate…I have put in for your banning from Amazon for your wild and vicious accusations of Satanism and pedophilia toward those who do not like what you like… I hope Amazon has the wisdom to make a clear demonstration that such things will not be tolerated.

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David Shurter says:
I won’t hold my breathe. More and more threats. Yet you are the one who is attacking everyone, but wants to play the victim. I have Amazon online right now myself.

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Douglas says:
Make sure they have a good look at what you and Byington do. Please do direct them to all these threads so they can have a good look. Do make sure to mention that I have had to complain of this twice and that masses of your slander were removed the first time

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David Shurter says:
They are just explaining to me what your game is. Plus- may I remind you that you are an anon? How exactly can you be hurt by anything when no one knows who you are?

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Douglas says:
You feel free to slander anyone who can’t sue you? Well, Mesner can, and I hope he does. And perhaps Amazon will see it otherwise as well. Perhaps they won’t find your “no one knows who you are” accusations of Satanism and pedophilia so innocuous.

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David Shurter says:
Please- I haven’t slandered anyone. Least of all you. You do it to yourself. All of you do. You fight for adults who have been called out for pedophilia- you are NOT for children. And Doug Misicko hosted a Satanic rally for Rick Scott down in Tallahassee Florida so if he doesn’t want to be called a satanist- he shouldn’t have thrown a rally for them.

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Douglas says:
You have many times called Mesner Misicko (with your paranoid picture comparison) and me Mesner–openly calling both Mesner and me a Satanist/pedophile… For that, you are legally responsible. You too, Byington. I call on the Amazon team to take special note of this.

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David Shurter says:
Then go for it Dougy- but chances are- you are just full of threats. And if the shoe fits buddy…

You just don’t like exposure. Obviously- since your making threats as an anon….

Oh- and for those who are interested- here are the pics Dougy is talking about…

Leader of the False Memory Pedophile Protector Squad- alias Doug Mesner

In reply to your post on Feb 1, 2013 2:07:51 PM PST
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Douglas says:
Mesner is the one with the strong legal case. Perhaps you two will hear from his council. I do not plan to sue anyone at this point. I AM pushing for Amazon to put an end to this Satanist/pedophilia accusation thing in a strong way with regard to you and Bylington.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2013 2:09:35 PM PST
David Shurter says:
Me too Douglas- BIG TIME! I have no clue who you are- but the things I have said about Mesner/misicko stand on my blog.

You are just full of threats. But chances are- you are HEAVILY involved with this in more ways than just in here.

In reply to your post on Feb 1, 2013 2:12:21 PM PST
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Douglas says:
What is “this”? Satanism? Pedophilia? Be specific. The only thing I seek is a forum in which people can argue about the merits of good or bad books without personal acccusations.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Feb 1, 2013 2:13:32 PM PST
David Shurter says:
In my opinion- take your pick. But that is just my opinion.

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Douglas says:
Well, we will see how much of your “opinion” remains here in the next 48 hours. I am not going to indulge you any more.

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David Shurter says:
Whatever sweetie. You do what you gotta do- and we will see what happens. But you attacked and have attacked over and over- so better pry yourself down off that cross buddy.