That if the Etan Patz murder is solved- then perhaps the second “first”  milk carton child should also be looked at and reinvestigated- which is, interestingly enough- Johnny Gosch.

Satanists mock the concept of God and the ancient scriptures, whereas a Luciferian believes in the Anti-Christ and therefore gives great heed to ancient spells and incantations.

America’s history with this is simple- Anton Levey was a satanist, and Col. Michael Aquino, founder of Temple of Set, is a Luciferian.

This is a simple explanation- but I wanted to add this because it came up in my questions and answer session.

This past week being in San Francisco and attending the Survivorship conference was very eye opening for me in many ways- and I would like to share some of my enlightenment in order to further glean what I can from my experiences.

First- I was exposed to a phrase that I would like to share- and that is Survivor Responsibility; when survivor guilt transforms from our own healing experience into a sense of responsibility to other victims at the point where one is able to evolve enough in their healing to try and do something to stop all of this from happening to others in the future.  In the process, one finds that their issues grow from a personal experience to something greater than the person- compelling them to go beyond their own comfort zone to try and help others from being hurt.  Life is greater than any of us- and therefore, I have realized once again that some things are worth defending, even at the risk of life and limb.

Secondly, I have realized once again that healing is a process that flows on ebb and tide, and that I will probably never be done growing and learning about myself.  The closer we get- the harder it is, as parts of us must burn away in order for us to rise as a phoenix in the context of our own lives.  However, for survivors, that means facing and confronting the CHAOS PROGRAMMING that is within us.  I had forgotten this until recently, and would like to talk a bit about it to explain what I am speaking of.

We are all programmed.  We are programmed to use the toilet- we are programmed to wash our hands afterwards.  The social morays in our culture program us and let us know what is socially acceptable or not- and very few of us have the capacity to escape from those rules for any amount of time before we begin to reap the repercussions of making others uncomfortable from breaking away from the norm.  The military uses boot camp to indoctrinate soldiers into being able to take and follow orders, programming them to be “all that they can be”.  Programming happens naturally with all of us, on whatever level our social cast will allow, so believing that the military has taken this to new levels trying to make “super soldiers” is not so implausible.  Child soldiering has been going on since the beginning of time, and the United States has a history to doing whatever it can to win the cold war we were once in, so considering the truth of which I speak is not so hard anymore when you think back on the history of corruption that has lead us to where we are now as a nation.

Chaos programming is part of the spin program, where they spin you around to the point of nausea and beyond- training a victim to feel out of control when they try to break the conditioning that is being imposed on them.  For a survivor- this causes them to feel disoriented and disconnected any time they try to break free from the conditioning that has been imposed upon us.  Stimulating the adrenaline of the fight or flight response, most survivors withdraw as a result, going back to their comfort zone- resulting in a stagnation that becomes overwhelming after a while.   Unable to grow because of fear, many survivors are so afraid of being triggered that they can’t fully enjoy the world around them.  I have been guilty of this same thing throughout my life, however, I reached a point years ago where I began to sense there was something greater than me in all of this- which helped me put my fear aside enough to try and face the chaos that has always been a part of my psych since I can remember.

I have been asked many times why I believe that the “official” stories and victims of Franklin Credit are bogus- and this is why.  Their stories are nothing but chaos.  Completely unbelievable, many who involve themselves in investigating all of this soon leave; as it leaves most with an icky chaotic feeling as nothing about the official stories make sense when looked at with a critical eye.  For survivors, this is even worse- as we already have all a fear of chaos- so, in essence, the stories surrounding Franklin Credit do nothing but scare survivors from coming forward.  Promising breakthroughs that have yet to transpire- even after 30 years, it is my desire to take the focus away from these hurricanes of disinformation and rather refocus on the prime elements that made this whole mess possible.  It is not in the individuals that the truth is to be found, but rather in the system itself.  However- battling the system is kind of like David and Goliath, which brings me to my last point.

As a practicing Shaman, I believe that the kingdom of Heaven is within all of us, and it is our responsibility to go within and name the demons within all of us in order to free ourselves from the chains that bind us.  Every one of us has issues, and despite where any of us are on the spectrum of life’s experience, we all have things that we have to face within ourselves.  That means that each of us needs to become comfortable with “dancing with the devil” so to speak.  It has been my personal experience that life’s lessons are generally learned in the trenches, not on safe mountaintops, and fear only gets in the way of progress.  Survivors, in my opinion, spend an inordinate amount of time desperately trying to control the world around them in order to feel safe, disregarding the fact that true strength comes from within, and it is not in dictating the world’s events around me that makes me safe, but rather how I adapt to those events.  “Know yourself, control yourself, and give freely of your time and energy”, is as true today as ever.  The only thing that I can control is me, and I still have miles to travel in my personal transformation.

I think it was experiencing the eclipse of the sun this past weekend that really opened my heart- as I discovered that as much as the dark wants to take over, it results in the light becoming more intense.  God is with me always- as is the whole of the Universe; I carry it within me, and so therefore no one can take it from me.  The darker it seems, the brighter it is- that has been a constant in my life’s experiences and so I choose to trust in that above all else.  For those of you who have expressed concern for me- I ask that you trust in God- for no one- not even me- can thwart the will of Heaven.  As I spoke about in my speech this weekend- they only picked the best and the brightest of us, which is why I felt a need to write this morning- for what may be true for me might be true for some of you as well.  It was my council- which I would be lost without- that has helped me reach this point of introspection, and I wanted to share it with others in order to hear what some of you have to say about it.  Our voice is louder in numbers, and stronger when unified, and mine cannot be the only one or chaos will ensue.  Only through “We as the People” will we be able to effectively change the Systems that Satan once offered to Jesus.  It is through us that God will work miracles, if only we will choose to be fearless enough to allow that to happen.

And that is my soapbox rant for the day.

Although we screwed up in this section- not being able to find the chapel right away and thinking that it was torn down like the daycare was, I feel that this part is still important to add….

Anon2129: David, you claim to be supporting the victims yet you throw the real victims under the bus. You David, are not being completely honest. You have given no real account of anything that has gone on in regards to child trafficking in Nebraska. You have only pieced together other victims and witnesses statements and used them as your own. Your info has been pieced together through reading internet articles, newspaper clippings and hearsay from those few victims/witnesses you have conned into telling you things. You sir need help. The term sociopath comes to mind. You are not a victim. You DEFINITELY were not one of Baers boys. You claim to be a victim yet you call this your “investigation”. A true victim does not need to investigate anything. They lived it. It was life.

You started talking about being interested in the Johnny Gosch case. Then that lead you to saying your father murdered someone. Then that lead you to investigating the fanklin scandal. Then that lead you to being a victim of the Franklin scandal. Your first mistake was your walking tour of Omaha. Which you missed many places and their meaning. Your second was not knowing much about Hummel park until someone mentioned it to you.

How is it that when you finally mention Hummel you leave out one very important fact that L.Kings house is literally a 5min walk away? It’s sick when one claims to be a victim. It’s sad.

You are not now nor have you ever been part of the Franklin victims. It has to be said David, you need help.

Davids: blah blah blah from an ANON.  Funny- i dont have to investigate anything either- it isnt my job.  that is the job of the police.  You all are just angry because someone with common sense who knew what was going on came forward and blew you guys out of the water.

Lukej:  Thank you anon2129  I am glad someone finally spoke out.   You know when someone continues to attack others/ victims, one has to examine what their motive might be.   Are they involved?  Are they uninformed or as you mentioned, does one need “help”.  There is always a payoff for the person who exhibits this type of behavior.

Davids: no one who actually reads my book will believe what you are saying

Davids: oh- the gang up again

Davids: of course- my sis has her own story as well

Davids: and we are both talking

Davids: so how are you going to trash her?

Davids: and Noreen- you could just as well be the anon

Davids: and you say I have problems

Davids: me thinks your issue with me is that people are actually LISTENING to me

Lukej:  There is always a payoff for the person who constantly is attacking others.   ALWAYS !

Davids: oh- there is a payoff Noreen- i get to expose all of you

Lukej:  no issue with you your statements accusations are “slander”

Davids: i couldnt ask for a better payment

Davids: you accuse your ex husband in your book-

Davids: talk about the pot callingthe kettle black

Lukej:  Rage is also often a very telling behavior point.

Davids: is that why i have a smile on my face?

Davids: i am not angry- you dont have that much power

Davids: and considering the hits ive got on my website today- people seem to be interested in what happened last night

Lukej:  Raging is a release for some people … it makes them feel so much better

Davids: you – on the other hand- seem incredibly angry

Davids: telling the truth is not raging- but then- you wouldnt know much about that then

Lukej:  lol  no you are not worth it …. LOL  Have a great day…

Davids: peace Noreen

Davids: im sure youll be talking about me

Lukej:  my name is Luke … has been all my life.   No actually I have much more important things to talk about .. so you won’t be in any of my conversations.    You really don’t know waht is going on do  you?

Davids: whatever

Davids: that is why you got 1st person and 3rd person confused- or maybe you have DID

Davids: but we will see who you really are very soon now

Davids: which is what i am looking for

Davids: both you and i know what is going on- what is important is that others discover the truth as well Noreen

Lukej:  No you do not know what has transpired over the past number of years, that is evident as you rant, rage and ramble….   Enjoy your 15 minutes.

Davids: i will- now that yours is over Noreen

Lukej:  again another joke, you should be a comedian …

Davids: produce your evidence- people are tired of the continual promises

Davids: im making things happen- and trust me- i have IN NO WAY forgotten our history Noreen

Davids: tic for tac

Lukej:  There are no promises ever made to the general public… get over yourself….

Davids: the public ignores you

Davids: i mean in here

Davids: how many times have you told people things are moving

Davids: and yet here we are

Lukej:  as an investigator, I never share with the  public what is really going on with the case.   So again … do get over yourself… no one really cares.

Davids: Noreen- you arent an investigator- and whatever

Davids: how convenient for you

Davids: i bet I can get people to listen- and more than that- understand what happened and what has been going on

Davids: you talk like a gatekeeper- the info is pending- we just cant disclose it yet.  wow- 30 years later you have gotten far

Lukej:  You seem to be confused… I am LUKE and I have been an investigator for many years.   Get over it … do yourself a favor .. you just seem to have so much consternation all the time.       You need to get busy and post this chat too….   gotta inform the universe.   sort of a Paul Revere….   You have no understanding of how this case is progressing or you wouldn’t make such stupid remarks, it only shows your ignorance each time you type something.

Davids: insult all you like Noreen- it isnt like I am the first or last to figure out your little show

Davids: or charade shall we say

Davids: and again- it sounds as if you are angry cause people are actually listening to me

Davids: and I am no fan of yours

Lukej:  David S. went on a rant again, attacking Paul Bonacci, Noreen and apparently others

Looking:  Yea he did – I went back and forth with him about it

Lukej:  oh really,  you were here when it happened?

Looking:  Yes, I went back and forth with him at length in the thread

Lukej:  back and forth concerning “what”?

Looking:  And Noreen

Lukej:  yes he attacked Noreen too

Looking:  He basically he thinks Noreen is part of the cover-up ragarding both Franklin and her son’s kidnapping

Looking:  *basically said

Rbeck:  I tried to Post some things to correct David like the court testimony and statements Paul made

Lukej:  you have to understand David gets most of his so called information from his Shammin and then acts like it is “fact”.    Then periodically he goes on these “rants” where he is out of control.

DavidShurter: that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard said

DavidShurter: but then you got that from my family

DavidShurter: interesting

DavidShurter: why is it you dont call my sis late at night anymore and ply her for info?

Lukej:  he even said ” Noreen called his sister late at night many times”.   Noreen spoke to his sister once and she nothing to offer so that was the first and last conversation

Looking:  Second to your claims about Noreen, Paul, Troy, John DeCamp and others perhaps David?

DavidShurter: they are all one and the same

DavidShurter: and it wont be too hard to point that out to people

Lukej:  lol   I feel another “rant” coming on… LOL

DavidShurter: why- i was having so much fun watching you Noreen

Looking:  If I post my thoughts on your blog about what you claim regarding the claims you’ve made against everyone I just named – will you let them stay or will you delete them because they stand in opposition to your beliefs?

DavidShurter: ill post them

DavidShurter: in fact looking- email me and ill put give it its own page

DavidShurter: but do your homework first- read not only my book but Noreens as well

DavidShurter: if you dont have it- ill send you a copy

Lukej:  David has some deep problems…. which causes him to go on these rants.

DavidShurter: yeah- that is why xxxxxxxx at the xxxxxxxx got threatened by the mafia over my book

Looking:  I really don’t care to deride you David, as I feel you shed new worthwhile light on things regarding the goings-on in Omaha, but I don’t understand your thoughts regading Noreen, Paul and others

DavidShurter: Noreen- you are the one who has issues- why you post under Luke I have no idea

Looking:  If you are willing to send me a copy, I will take you up on that offer

DavidShurter: tell ya what- ill post all the stuff i have about them on my site

DavidShurter: that way you can see it for yourself

DavidShurter: far be it from me to keep the info

Lukej:  oh people like to say “the mafia did this or the mafia did that”,  better call in Geraldo again, maybe he can open the vault for you

DavidShurter: Noreen- that is your gig- not mine

DavidShurter: people are already looking at EVERYTHING differently

DavidShurter: and i have history to back me

DavidShurter: karma can be a bitch-

Looking:  Would you mind me emailing you at some point about things, David? Like I said, it is not my desire to mock or deride you – but I am only being honest when I tell you I find your allegations against Noreen, Paul and others to be unfounded and that you haven’t presented much up to this point in regards to those claims that lends any truthfulness to them.

DavidShurter: that is because you dont know the situation.  davidshurter1@gmail.com

DavidShurter: i would be delighted to email back and forth and would like to publish it on my blog if you dont mind from time to time

Lukej:  Again, David gets his info from his SHAMMIN  so take it with a grain of salt/sand or what ever is handy

DavidShurter: Noreen- obviously you havent read my book.  unfortuante- because i READ yours

DavidShurter: and it is spelled shaman- or shamanism

DavidShurter: everyone seems afraid but me

Lukej:  LOL  now that is a joke

DavidShurter: please- do tell- what do you find funny about it?

Lukej:  but it it makes you feel better to think people are afraid of you… then knock yourself out

DavidShurter: otherwise my booksellers wouldnt be getting late night calls

DavidShurter: but of course that wont work with the survivorship conference i am speaking at

Looking:  I’m not as new to Franklin as you may think I am. I certainly don’t claim to know everything, or even most of what has gone on regarding Franklin though . I am always willing to learn more. I’ll discuss whether I care if you post are email exchanges once I actually email you if you don’t mind.

DavidShurter: no worries- let me know

DavidShurter: i decided to appeal to the survivors- not the media

DavidShurter: the media only sells misinformation in my opinion

DavidShurter: interesting that was the route you all took- and how well it panned out for all of you

DavidShurter: in fact- you are the only ones who are visable to Franklin

DavidShurter: wow- i need to blog tonight

Looking:  when you say ” you are the only ones” , who are referring to by “you” ?

Looking:  …anyone?

Lukej:  i am still here

Looking:  Why do people claim your Noreen, Luke? Or is it just David now? HAdn’t others in here before?

Lukej:  they are idiots ….. lol    David has some real mental problems for years now … so take it with a grain of salt

Looking:  I don’t think you’re Noreen, but I thought I heard you were one of her investigators – is that true?

Lukej:  I have worked on this case for a very long time “with Noreen”,    Yes, I am an investigator on the case… tht seems to bother David for some reason, not sure why

DavidShurter: no you are Noreen herself

DavidShurter: sorry- it took me some time to copy the chat

Looking:  what makes you believe that David?

DavidShurter: i felt it was too good not to share

Lukej:  see what I mean

DavidShurter: noone who reads my book thinks im crazy Noreen

DavidShurter: now you on the other hand

DavidShurter: but you are far from crazy- even with all that hair

DavidShurter: you are sly- and incredibly cunning

DavidShurter: everything a true gatekeeper should be

So now that the cat is out of the bag- it is true- I don’t trust Noreen Gosch at all.  We have 2,185 kids disappearing a day and she has this fanciful tale about how her son came back at 27 but was too scared to leave the men he was with.  No cards- no letters- nothing.  No evidence.  But the sad truth to this tale is that, at least around here- it helped people dismiss the whole thing about Franklin.  Somehow Johnny Gosch- a boy who was abducted in my aunt’s stomping grounds of West Des Moines- became the figure head of Franklin Credit- as Franklinfiles.net is a tribute too.  A story too bizarre to be believed- told by a woman who has a ridiculous mass of black hair for her little head= which I believe FURTHER increases in peoples minds how crazy the whole story is.

I published tonight’s conversation because Noreen likes publicity- and so that is what I think she needs.  It helped me come out of the closet so to speak- so that I don’t have to bother traveling this road with the very same people who have done nothing but help deter people for years with wasted promises of ‘SOMETHING IS IN THE WORKS THIS VERY MINUTE” and yet that minute has never come- 30 years later.  I believe there is a reason for that- and that it has everything to do with gatekeepers keeping all of Franklin under wraps.

Confusion reported at several polling places

Fischer wins GOP nomination for Senate

Democrats choose Kerrey for old Senate job

Looks like it is going to be an interesting year for politics.  I wrote Fischer today and told her of my website and suggested she read Rabbit Hole: A Satanic Ritual Abuse Survivor’s Story  for some ammo against Kerrey.  Kerrey is Warren Buffet’s bitch- and they are all trying to take over for whatever reason.  Could be Franklin is coming back out- could be the Keystone pipeline- but whatever way you look at it- big money is involved in Nebraska politics right now.

also- this was on facebook…

“I feel the best way to ensure Americans’ freedom is to tighten restrictions on that freedom in any way possible. Only through wiretaps, illegal searches and seizures, unfettered government intrusion, a controlled media and a complete crackdown on free speech can we ensure the liberties of all people.” – John Ashcroft

I have been accused of making careless and unsubstantiated claims against those connected to Franklin Credit, esp. those who were on the side of victims, and I would like to explain myself so that people can understand.

It is true that I do not trust Paul Bonacci at all.  I fail to understand how he can know so much about the details of Franklin, and yet nothing was mentioned about the things I talk about in my video A Walking Tour through Pedophile Omaha, not to mention what was happening out at Hummel Park and Forest Lawn.  Simple facts about places like the Hollywood bar- where the snuff films were being filmed- were kept out of everything- and my question has always been why?  If Paul was indeed involved as a victim- then he should know these things- as Omaha is a small place and I am not the only one who knew what was happening.  Why not bring these things to light?  They aren’t all that secret in Omaha- so why has there NEVER BEEN MENTION OF THESE THINGS- until I came along?  How is it possible that Paul knows all about Bohemian Grove and Washington DC- but doesn’t know about his own hometown- where EVERYTHING WAS HAPPENING?  And then when he argued with me that Tony, Emilio, and Mike weren’t brothers- I realized that he was not telling the complete truth about what he was involved with.

I knew Troy Boner personally- and I knew him to be a liar and a thief- as he stole from me more than once.  Troy was a Baer boy- and Alan Baer called the shots until he died in 2006- so you tell me why so many Baer boys “committed suicide” but Paul was allowed to go and talk all he wanted.  Strange- I am being threatened even now talking about it- and yet Paul is allowed to thrive.  Interesting that his place is different in all of this in comparison to all the other victims, and it is his safeguarded status that makes me suspicious.

Also, most of Franklin was made to go away because of Paul’s Dissociative Identity Disorder, and later- that diagnosis of DID was used to make ALL THE CLAIMS OF SATANIC RITUAL ABUSE TO GO AWAY.  Even now there is a push to do this through Debbie Nathan’s book Sybil Exposed- were the diagnosis of DID is being associated with “satanic panic” so that both can promptly be dismissed.  I have worked with MANY survivors, and DID is not something you can easily overcome- and from my experience with talking with Paul on Franklinfiles.net was that he was articulate and, for the most part, normal.  What a change has occurred- and yet- still no new info about Omaha- and that which has come out he has argued- such as the Aquazinno brother’s not being related.

Franklin somehow became all about Johnny Gosch- and the issues surrounding that case.  Noreen wrote a book about how she believes her husband sold Johnny and then did this elaborate cover-up that included Noreen impersonators- a story, along with his return at 27, that has done nothing other than help people disregard the whole Franklin thing as fantasy.  I don’t believe that this is an accident- and in fact I believe that it is just the opposite- that this is an intentional thing to keep anyone from delving too far into Franklin to see that it was all about a gun, drug, and child trafficking ring.

I fail to see why the facts of this case have remained hidden when there has been such a push to “expose” this for thirty years now.  But what we have now that we haven’t had before is HISTORY.  What has been said can now be reviewed in light of this new information, and be compared to the real story to ascertain why this has remained hidden for so long.  It is true that Paul could just be ignorant of the facts I present in Rabbit Hole- as could John DeCamp- but the fact that Omaha is such a small town- chances are this wasn’t secret to those heavily involved- as I am far from the only person who remembers the stuff I have talked about in my book.  Omaha is a small town- people talk- and had there been a real investigation- these things would NOT have remained hidden in my opinion.  Therefore= everything needs to be relooked at- and that includes the Johnny Gosch case to see if it is actually involved with the child trafficking that was going on in the area.

My point is eventually Paul will be asked the same questions I am asking.  I have wanted to ask John DeCamp these questions- but he constantly fails to meet with me or talk with me or even interact.  Of course- in the position that he is- his place is also going to come under question- as he was not only the lawyer but one of the investigators in the whole ordeal.

I am taking this case away from the gatekeepers.  My sis spoke on a phone conference with Doug Millar and John DeCamp came on only long enough to deflect what my sis was saying in order to bring up Paul B. and make sure that people believed he was the only one who could adequately explain Franklin and DID.  Noreen used to call my sis late at night after my sis had taken her pills and probe her for info for some time- until my sis put a stop to it.  The fact is that people in town are threatened that my sis and I are coming forward- because it dispels the bullshit that has been associated with this case for 30 years.

With the new focus- I think that things are going to come out showing that those involved in “helping to expose Franklin” have done nothing of the sort.  Strong claim- but it is my opinion knowing what I do.  It is the whole reason why this has remained hidden and under a cloud of inane ridiculousness for 30 years now.

I am not saying that they weren’t molested.  However- the logic of this case remains.  The Grand Jury didnt believe Paul either- and now that we are 30 years later- why has NOTHING COME OUT FROM PAUL?

This doesn’t hurt my case in the least- and it is my opinion I have had for a long long time.  People who read my book don’t disregard me- because it makes sense.  Paul’s story doesn’t make any sense- which is why we are still here and havent gotten anywhere with this.

Johnny is still missing- and the Franklin case is still unsolved.  After thirty years of this- it would come to be that something is seriously wrong with the story.

The problem is that everyone wants to keep rehashing what has been done and said with the same people.  I have no interest in this- and since I am HEAVILY involved with all of this- I have a choice.  I chose to try and get this reinvestigated- without going down the same path that everyone has gone down thus far and achieved nothing.  Except for posting on sites like this- which hasn’t accomplished anything from what I can see.

I am not trying to be difficult- but I think that there is a push to keep the bullshit meter high on this one and keep everyone from looking around at it.  If Johnny IS ALIVE- why not a letter- some sort of proof.  It always gets said that proof isn’t neccesary- but in this case- unless someone can prove that Johnny Gosch is alive- PROVE IT- NOT JUST SAY IT, then it can be suggested that he is not around.  Proof is in the pudding- as they say.

I know that I am going to get slack for my views on all of this- and I am okay with that.  Our objective is to get to the bottom of this- and that is exactly what I am trying to do.  Not make friends- or go down the same path so that everyone stays comfortable.

The stuff you are quoting Rbeck is from Paul.  I want to see someone come forward that can prove that they helped Paul.  But after he told me that Tony, Mike, and Emilio weren’t related is when BIG RED FLAGS WENT UP FOR ME.

There is a push to keep all of this quiet- and those who have “tried” to expose all of this just want to hide.  I have no interest in hiding- and if my comments make people uncomfortable- I am sorry- but child trafficking needs to stop now- and this is a serious case of it.

oh- a few things- one- DeCamp has ruined his own rep in Nebraska, I had nothing to do with that.  Secondly- I have had serious problems with Noreen and don’t neccesarily trust her either.  And Troy Boner and I knew each other well- so I can safely and without reserve say that Boner was a pathological liar.  You guys all forget- I either knew- or have met everyone involved with all of this- as well as growing up in a family that was involved.  The only way to get this case solved, in my opinion, is to take it away from the gatekeepers that have worked so hard to keep it from really being looked at.

 
“They have their truth and you have yours. The difference is they aren’t criticizing you (not that Troy can defend himself now) for the claims you have made.”

No one in Nebraska believes the situation.  The difference between them and myself is that I havent been the one spearheading the investigation- or lack thereof- for 30 years now.

And Alecia- however you spell her name- is the only one who went to jail unjustly.  Troy didnt spend a day in jail- and I think that Troy got himself all involved in a situation that he couldn’t control.

I am not saying that they arent victims- but I dont know if they are programmed or not- but their stories have ALWAYS WORKED FOR THE OTHER SIDE.  Paul is generally used to dismiss it all.

The other part is that their truth has been heard- but mine hasn’t YET.  Yet being the key word.  I have a feeling that my “truth” as you say it will win out over the lies- because it is really what happened.

and Paul has critisized me- as has Noreen, Jimmy- and all the others situated in this mess.  I have been called a pedophile= crazy- a liar- and as well as having my families social security numbers going over the web and things like that.  I have NO REASON TO PLAY NICE- and so therefore I will act accordingly.

It was when Paul told me that Emilio, Tony, and Mike weren’t brothers that i knew something was up.