Targeted Individuals as Perps

This past Sunday- while my ex roommate James Lico new roommate was over here “mending bridges” with me- James Lico was instant messaging my older sister on Facebook- giving her a link to click on so that she could listen to Renata Murray’s Sunday Talkshoe show.

Funny- James Lico has written a lot of disparaging things about me- accusing me of “elder abuse” while demanding to come back and live in my house. James was sent to me by Renata Murray- who, although I am not racist at all- fits the stereotype of a loud mouth opinionated uneducated black woman to a tee. Involving herself with people she has never met- from what I understand she has had quite a bit to say about me on her show. Funny- both Renata and James Lico’s roommate and I once called themselves my friends- but when I no longer fit the parameters of what they wanted from me- turned on me like jackals to cause as many issues as they could for me.

My sis has absolutely no interest in James Lico- as she has talked to him on the phone and believes he is psychotic. I lived with the man and had to turn in his arsenal of guns and loaded magazines to the police after he was making threats about my neighbors- who he was convinced were secret CIA agents inundating him with secret microwave weapons in order to hurt him and make him into some sort of Manchurian candidate remotely. My sis refers to the T.I.community as the “totally insane” community as they are convinced that everyone is out to get them. Renata spurs and encourages this type of thinking on her small talkshoe program every Sunday. She is effective in the brainwashing of the inept, I must say- but some of us- including myself- would rather she keep her big mouth out of our lives and think she would be better off trying to figure out how to stop her own perps rather than trying to solve the problems of everyone else- esp. as uneducated as she is. I bring her up because her name got mentioned several times when James Lico’s roommate came over last Sunday as James himself was trying to access my sister for whatever reason.

There ARE targeted individuals out there to be sure- but for the most part- esp. those on FFCHS, another Talkshoe show on Saturdays, as well as Renata’s call on Sunday- it consists of people like James Lico who just found the condition on the internet and then convinced himself that he was on of the chosen. Most people are NOT that special- and James certainly isn’t.

I do not appreciate James trying to access my Twitter account, my Linked In account- and every other account he has tried to access in the past couple months. For being a targeted individual- he certainly knows how to target others- but then I think that he is being coached by Renata- who was a proud member of FFCHS (Freedom from covert harassment and surveillance). All of these programs are a joke- and generally just want info or- like FFCHS- money- from the people they supposedly serve. Me- I want nothing to do with the drama. James Lico- if he wants his guns back- should go to the police who refuse to give them back to him- and not to me or my sis- who both think he is loony tunes. As far as his little group- they can go on and talk all they want- but from what I know they have their own issues and I am far from being one for them in comparison. I wish they would leave me alone- and crawl back under whatever T.I. rock they crawled out from under.

Stories About the Mass Graves of Poor Children Around the World.

http://beforeitsnews.com/celebrities/2014/08/queen-elizabeth-canadians-refuse-to-litigate-child-genocide-mass-grave-sites-2466362.html

http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/04/world/europe/ireland-children-bodies-tuam/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ireland/10885038/More-Irish-mass-graves-likely-to-be-found-warns-Archbishop-of-Dublin.html

http://www.npr.org/2012/10/15/162941770/floridas-dozier-school-for-boys-a-true-horror-story

More Conversations on Amazon with Gordon As He Gets them Deleted

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 7:14:35 AM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
You’re the one who makes accusations, liar. I have facts. Facts about this book that “SRA” pushers (aka liars) like you can’t answer, which is why you resort to accusations.

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LoessJedi says:
and getting my replies deleted so that only your accusations stand is deceptive at best. If I was such a liar- why not let what I say stand so that others could see what a “liar” I am. But that isn’t your style. You want the last and only word- hoping that people will believe your nasty opinions.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 7:44:55 AM PDT
LoessJedi says:

http://davidshurter.com/?p=4520

The Campaign to Bully Authors on Amazon who Talk About Surviving Satanic Ritual Abuse

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 8:38:58 AM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
It’s not deceptive in the slightest. It’s about ENDING deceptions like yours. Your lies and insults and irrelevancies should be deleted, and there is nothing wrong with reporting them.

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 8:40:00 AM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
I wonder if this post will say anything about the campaign to bully reviewers on Amazon who call attention to the lies of “satanic ritual abuse”. Somehow I doubt it.

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LoessJedi says:
one of the most important parts of the woo woo tactic (look it up on line) is to constantly call your opponent a liar when you can’t argue them down to silence. This has been WIDELY used in just the past three pages alone. In fact almost every post that isn’t mine uses this tactic. Then – at least on Amazon- report them over and over and get them taken down so only one side’s accusations stand- while all defensive remarks go to the wayside.

One Troll Attack on Judy Byington’s book 22 Faces on Amazon http://youtu.be/D9sBhbH7ol4

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 12:59:45 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Or maybe it’s because YOU LIE CONSTANTLY. About me, yourself, the book which you never read, everything.

So, why do you think so many of your posts get taken down?

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LoessJedi says:
I could argue yours get taken down quite a bit as well. Complain five times about a post and it gets taken down automatically.

You are deceptive. and a game player. and correct me if I am wrong- but the review that is at the top of the list is mine- and I said I didn’t read the book at the time. It is entitled Judy Byington- As a Person- Rocks

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:09:17 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Yeah, you didn’t answer the question. Why do you think so many of your posts get taken down?

I deceive no one. Nor am I a “game player”, whatever that means. Another scare word, I suppose.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:13:36 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
because you and your group complain about them constantly. that is why they get taken down. As you said- you complain about them. Me- I like people to be able to see the WHOLE conversation. It just seems more honest to me. Let people decide for themselves what is true or not. It isn’t my job to alter the info to try and manipulate what they think. I believe people are more intelligent than you do obviously.

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Gordon_bydand says:
Golden mean fallacy. The assumption that both sides deserve to be heard. Creationists and proponents of “Intelligent Design” are fond of it for the very same reason you are. Also, still no group. And I’m pretty sure Amazon doesn’t work that way; if it gets taken down, an admin thinks it violated a rule somewhere.

And don’t get sanctimonious about letting people “see the WHOLE conversation”. How many comments do you permit on your blog? None?

“correct me if I am wrong- but the review that is at the top of the list is mine”
You are wrong. The one at the top of the list is from your ex-cohort Goodwin. Yours is #30.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:27:31 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
mine is the most helpful critical review. anyone can check on it for themselves.

funny- you argue pedophiles, Nazis and satanists all have rights but me- i dont have the right to defend myself. interesting. of course all this is going up on my blog .

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:29:19 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
it is middle of the day and i have 390 hits so far. so people must be finding all of this interesting. think that many people have been in here today? lol

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:30:51 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Funny, I don’t recall saying anything about what rights you do or don’t have. However, I must remind you that, despite one of your more bizarre theories, Amazon isn’t a part of the government, so is perfectly free to censure anyone they feel like.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:32:32 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1SJ2P8CAW4UN4/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R1SJ2P8CAW4UN4

my review on amazon for 22 faces

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:32:47 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Appeal to popularity. Fallacy. Plus, don’t you rant all the time about how I or anyone else can come here (a major shopping site) in the middle of the day? But I guess it’s okay when they’re reading some random guy’s conspiracy theory blog…

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:34:30 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
My review on Amazon for 22 Faces:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R2EW7A792LS592/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1620240327#wasThisHelpful

Unlike yours, I actually talk about the book! Amazing, I know.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:34:57 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
they aren’t censoring- like you said- you are complaining to them. and you obviously dont believe I have rights- and that people are too dumb to make up their own minds. your actions speak louder than words.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R1SJ2P8CAW4UN4/ref=cm_cr_pr_viewpnt#R1SJ2P8CAW4UN4

my review for 22 faces

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:35:42 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
your all that dude. lol.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:36:43 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
i talk about you dude and how you say you are working a job yet are in here all day. I was speaking about you and you alone.

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:37:33 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
I should start keeping a list of words you don’t understand. Like ‘censure’ and ‘rights’. I think people deserve not to be lied to by charlatans and predators like Byington, Goodwin, and you.

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:39:59 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
So you admit you have two standards, one for whoever agrees with you, and one for whoever does not. More of your confirmation bias.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:40:55 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
lol- basically because you think you are smarter than everyone and they are too dumb to know the difference- isn’t that correct?

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:42:15 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
No. It’s not. It’s because I think people deserve not to be lied to by charlatans and predators like Byington, Goodwin, and you.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:42:29 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
no- but you like to censure anything you dont agree with. thus you try to get all of my replies to your bs removed. I don’t agree with that. and i think that people are way smarter than you give them credit for.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:44:52 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
well i am sure there is one or two who appreciate your efforts to protect them from their own stupidity.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:51:52 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
http://davidshurter.com/?p=4523 More Conversations on Amazon with Gordon As He Gets them Deleted

In reply to your post on Aug 6, 2014 1:48:54 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Yes, I’m sure the tinfoil hat brigade will enjoy your lies.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 6, 2014 1:53:12 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
lol- again you show how little repsect you have for the public. it is actually really sad. If they don’t believe you they are stupid. but then you are a deceptive little snot.

The Campaign to Bully Authors on Amazon who Talk About Surviving Satanic Ritual Abuse

Arguing with the likes of Gordon on Amazon is an act of futility- as they deny all their inappropriate behavior and work at getting any retort to their accusations deleted. However- I want to show that there IS a campaign by the False Memory “Syndrome” Foundation to attack and silence all who would try to come forward and talk about satanic ritual abuse. Most of the arguing that I have been involved with has been on Judy Byington’s book 22 Faces. Last night I posted some of the typical conversation- which Gordon has gotten Amazon to remove- at least all of what I wrote. His ugly accusations stand- as if he is the only truth teller out there. Of course- calling someone names and then getting their defense deleted is deceptive at best- but it is typical of what this side has been like. Threatening me with jail for arguing with them- which is what Murphy has done claiming that he is a lawyer- has also been typical. This group of people will stop at nothing to try and persuade people to believe their lies- and Gordon is a perfect example of that. They claim there is no campaign of attack- and yet the FMSF newsletter shows something entirely different.

This is a call to arms in the False Memory Syndrome Foundation’s 2012 newletter.

http://www.fmsfonline.org/?news2012update=Dangerous%20Book:%20Twenty-Two%20Faces

Dangerous Book: Twenty-Two Faces

FMSF News Alert – October 23, 2012

Introducing J. Bean and Dangerous new book

Dear FMSF Friends, I have a new volunteer assisting me in sending regular notices to FMSF members. J. Bean has been a friend of the Foundation since 1992. Future updates may come from email address JBeanfmsf@gmail.com. You might want to add that address to your “trusted senders.”
Pamela

Judy Byington, therapist and author of the book “Twenty-Two Faces” is to be interviewed on the Dr. Phil Show next Wednesday, October 31st. “Twenty-Two Faces” is the story of Byington’s patient, Jenny Hill, who claims to have developed Multiple Personalities after having been abused by Jewish Nazi Satanists, as well as by her own parents. The book chronicles Hill’s “recovering memories” of this hidden past in therapy.

Journalist Doug Mesner has written an interesting review of the book, entitled When Therapists are Lunatics. Mr. Mesner has also published an open letter to Dr. Phil in the Examiner, urging skepticism.

If you wish to offer the Dr. Phil Show your opinion of this content, contact information is available here:

Dr. Phil.com

J. Bean

A “Conversation” Between the Anonymous Gordon and Myself on Amazon

Gordon is all over my book- constantly calling me a liar, crazy , and more- although tonight he admits he has never read the book. Of course I caught him in several lies tonight so what anyone should believe is a good guess. Sorry that the conversation rates right up there with a grade school fight on the playground- but that is the type of behavior I have come to expect from this idiot- who often times uses the 6th grade tactics of “I know you are but what am I” to argue his point. I am putting this conversation on my blog because Gordon has a tendency to cry to Amazon and have all of my replies removed while his stay up. Since he is clamoring for attention- I thought I would give the child what he desires most – an actual venue.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:00:37 AM PDT
LoessJedi says:
whatever. you dont talk facts as much as opinions. and I never called you satanic or a pedophile. however- I did have issue with you saying that pedophilia isn’t a crime. but I am sure you will twist this as you do everything.

funny- your not attacking but I am attacking you. funny how it works that way in your world.
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In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 11:06:32 AM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Yes, actually, you DID say that about me. Multiple times, in fact.

“I did have issue with you saying that pedophilia isn’t a crime.”
Yes. You have a lot of issues with reality. Perhaps you should seek psychological help. But you’re still not addressing the book. 22 Faces, the one you never read.

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Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:14:17 AM PDT
LoessJedi says:
no i didn’t- although i said you were a member of the pedophile protection squad. again- you twist things.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 11:30:49 AM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
You’ve done both. Both are of course lies. And you’re still not talking about the book you never read. Give me a single neurologist who makes reference to this “omega wave” Byington writes about.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:41:09 AM PDT
LoessJedi says:
omega wave allows you to train more efficiently. it also is Forbidden’s fifth album. There is a lot of stuff on Google about it.

lol- you accuse me of talking about a book i supposedly didnt read yet you do the same thing on my book. If that isnt the pot calling the kettle black. and i never called you a satanist. but i do still contend that you have defended pedophilia.

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Gordon_bydand says:
The difference is I never claimed to have read your “book”. In fact, I have specifically said I did not. That in no way precludes me from commenting, particularly as my few remarks have been mainly about your BEHAVIOR HERE, not the book itself.

Yes, you have called me a “satanist”, which is a lie. As is the bit about me “defending” (another scare word! do you collect those?) anything. Stating a FACT is not expressing an opinion. Do learn the difference.

“omega wave allows you to train more efficiently”
Yes, the phony Russian exercise program. I’ve seen it referred to twice, once on that company’s own site, and once when Wired slammed it as a fake, specifically stating (might be slightly paraphrased) that “neurologists have never heard of it”. Thing is, even fraudulent Russian exercise programs aren’t insane enough to think that brainwaves can be used to map personalities onto, like Byington says.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 4:51:43 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
if you havent read the book- why do you go on and on about how bad it is written. can’t have it both ways. again- it is another example of you expressing your opinions as facts and just expecting people to take it at face value. I suggest you take your own advice and LEARN THE DIFFERENCE.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 8:46:31 PM PDT
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Gordon_bydand says:
As I have repeatedly said, I read the sample portions both here and on your website . And OBVIOUSLY when I or anyone else says something is poorly written it’s opinion! This is yet another proof of you not understanding what constitutes ‘opinion’ and what constitutes ‘fact’. And of you continuing to promote your (irrelevant) book in place of this one, so you’re still trolling and still haven’t read 22 Faces.

Allow me to demonstrate the difference between ‘fact’ and ‘opinion’.
Judy Byington and David Shurter are poor writers.
This is an opinion. It is a subjective expression that has no absolute and external truth value, only a relative and internal one.
Judy Byington and David Shurter are liars.
This is a fact. It is an objective statement about the world that has an absolute and external truth value.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:22:18 PM PDT
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LoessJedi says:
dude= you project way too much. Just because you tell yourself something doesnt make it truth= and it doesn’t make you any less dishonest. You twist everything you do and MUST have the last word- which says more about you than it does me.

If you dont want me to talk about myself- then stop talking about me. You lie so much and attack so much and are so childish that it is amazing you are able to maintain yourself to any degree. oh- thats right = you ARENT.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:30:05 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
It’s rare to see so many lies in two poorly-typed incoherent paragraphs. I do not lie. Ever. Show a single time. Go ahead, I invite you to do so. Since you’ve given up even the pretense of having a point related to the book, might as well entertain me for a while.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:35:30 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
you just lied now saying you never lie. YOu twist everything and make yourself out to be the victim. saying you arent a child is also a lie= your “I know you are but what am I” argument is tiring. Just because you have opinions-= generally unwarranted- doesnt make you more than what you are. which isnt much

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:38:34 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
just an anon on Amazon wanting desperately to be heard. ignored like you are in life- which is why you are so disagreeable.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:38:49 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Truly pathetic. You can’t back up anything. I d not lie. Ever. Show a single time. Go ahead, I invite you to do so.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:43:16 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
Suggesting that you are superior in every way is one of the biggest lies you tell yourself. again- what are you but some anon with opinions- which you have formed with no real education to the facts. and you call me pathetic= lmfao.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:44:16 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
just because you are rude doesn’t make you superior. it just means you dont have any other way to express yourself.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:47:52 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
I’m not rude at all. Just because you are illiterate, doesn’t make you superior. It just means you don’t have any other way to express yourself.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:49:31 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
You still don’t know what an opinion is. You still throw out made up scare words that don’t mean anything.

And when did I “suggest[] that [I am] superior in every way”, and superior to whom?

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:54:25 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
lol- you aren’t superior to anyone.

and you really need to be less scared of words. Never have I seen someone use “scare words” so much as you.

and your insults could be construed as rude. Or childish idiocy- take your pic.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:00:16 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:

David Shurter on Cancel The Cabal

for those of you who want something more than Gordon’s opinions.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:00:23 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
I never said I was scared. I said you use scare words. Come clean , English isn’t your native language, is it?

“your insults could be construed as rude”
Really? Compared to who? The lying quasi-literate hypocritical beggar who goes around calling people satanic pedophiles? To me, THAT is rude…well, several stronger concepts, but rudeness is certainly there.

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LoessJedi says:
oh-more insults. let me cry myself to sleep.

dude= you are just a sad little anon who has no other place than amazon in their pathetic little life. and to tell yourself you are all that is a lie you need to feel better about yourself.

no matter how you insult me- I have a bigger venue and more people listening and interested in me than you ever will.

oh- and just because you fight for the rights of pedophiles doesn’t mean you are enough to be a satanist. they have much higher standards.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:04:23 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
No one wants anything from Shurter’s insipid blog.

Also, I have facts. Learn the difference. For example, all of the FACTual errors committed by Byington that I have pointed out. The “omega wave” for one; I challenged you to provide a single neurologist to back up your side and you couldn’t do it, just some vague mutterings about “a lot of stuff on Google”, despite the burden of proof being on YOU. Neither you nor Byington can show that such a thing exists.
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Gordon_bydand says:
Again with the transparent discrepancy. You can go from “no one knows who you are” to claiming to know all about me without the slightest sign of self-awareness. These two positions are mutually exclusive. Your inconsistent and laughably weak taunts only show you for what you really are.

Also, more lying about me? It’s quite disgusting, and only shows how horrible a human being you must be.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:09:26 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
i could care less about Omega wave. I didn’t write it so there is no burden of proof on me at all.

lhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHoXZq9y2UI

David Shurter on Cancel The Cabal

and I have another radio interview on Saturday so obviously not everyone agrees with your uneducated opinions

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LoessJedi says:
your right Gordon- that is why so many people are interested in what you think. I mean- people are reaching out to you asking your opinion aren’t they?

Oh that’s right- no one is.

cause no one cares about you. Probably the story of your pathetic little life.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:11:28 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
And how do you know this?

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:13:05 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
oh I am wrong? do tell.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:16:48 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Yes, you are, but that’s not the point, and furthermore my private life is just that, private. The point is, you DON’T know, you CAN’T know, this is just more of your hypocritical baseless hatespew. For someone who constantly cries “stop talking about me! you don’t know me!” and “all you have are insults!” you’re the major source of such things. There’s an easy way to avoid this, of course. All you have to do is…talk about the book.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:19:55 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
please= no one cares about you dude. your life is private cause no one could care less. and that is an understatement.

You go on and on about how no one cares what I think and I can prove you wrong. You just have BS excuses.

More lies= but whatever allows you to sleep at night i guess.

David Shurter on Cancel The Cabal

Funny- I can SHOW people’s interest in me- not including the 500+ hits a day on my blog – one of which is admittedly you. So even you have interest in me. lol.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:24:51 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
“one of which is admittedly you. So even you have interest in me.”
Nope. I don’t read your blog. I haven’t bothered to do so even out of morbid curiosity for several months now, and this is the first I’ve even acknowledged doing that much. So don’t flatter yourself.

Allow me to rephrase. No one whose interest is in 22 Faces cares what you think. This thread is for 22 Faces. Therefore, no one (reading this) cares what you think.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:29:28 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 8:46:31 PM PDT
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Gordon_bydand says:
As I have repeatedly said, I read the sample portions both here and on your website

so which one is it? you seem to contradict yourself. I am not flattered by you dude- like everyone else in your life I would prefer it if you kept your distance.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:35:12 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
No contradiction at all. Your blog is not the Consider It Creative website, and I read the sample well over a year ago.

And of course more of your hypocrisy and insults that don’t make any sense. You never get tired of that, I see.

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LoessJedi says:
if that aint the pot calling the kettle black.

just admit you are a liar.

I don’t read your blog. I haven’t bothered to do so … for several months now.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:41:35 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
again- you can’t show where anyone is interested in you- and I can easily show where people are interested in what I have to say- so your opinions that no one cares about me or what i have to say is false.

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You say one thing one minute and then contradict yourself the next. Why would ANYONE listen to you?

oh- thats right- they don’t.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:42:19 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
There is absolutely nothing I have said that isn’t true, or that is in any way contradictory. Do you have some kind of learning disability? Or are you just that dishonest?

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:43:18 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Again, you say things that, not only are they not true, but you’d have no way of knowing about. This is what makes you a liar.

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LoessJedi says:
and you spout opinions that are uneducated = which makes you ignorant.

and the fact that you live in here and insult everyone shows people how completely pathetic you are.

“I don’t read your blog. I haven’t bothered to do so even out of morbid curiosity for several months now.” – yet you said you have never been on my blog . so which one is it? you either HAVE been on my blog or you have NEVER been on my blog- either way you are caught in a lie. But like most liars you wont admit it.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:51:42 PM PDT
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Gordon_bydand says:
“and the fact that you live in here and insult everyone shows people how completely pathetic you are”
Huh. So…what does that say about you? And I don’t “live in here”, and I don’t “insult everyone”, so really, you’re only succeeding in making YOURSELF look bad. Well, worse. You already look bad for spending two years trolling to defend a book you’ve never read and never talked about.

I don’t think that anyone of your level of literacy is qualified to call someone else “ignorant”. Between the constant demonstrations that you don’t know what a fact or an opinion is, to your bizarre punctuation, you really aren’t MENSA material.

I did not say I had never been there. YOU are lying when you claim that I did.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:02:01 PM PDT
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LoessJedi says:
sorry- i had to copy the conversation before it was gone. I want to post it on my blog and then send them to your comments on my book.

In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 11:05:20 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Am I supposed to care about this? I stand by every word I’ve said. Although I’ve little doubt that you will lie about it, because that’s what you do.

Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:06:25 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
“Your blog is not the Consider It Creative website , and I read the sample well over a year ago.”

so you HAVE been on my blog which shows you have had interest in me.

which one is it?

New Interview With Stephen Roberts on Cancel the Cabal 8/1/2014

http://www.cancelthecabal.net/uploads/2/1/1/6/21163562/august_1_2014_rabbit_hole_with_david_shurter_and_gill_trebilcock.mp3

New Book Review on Michael Aquino’s New Book “Extreme Prejudice”

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Satanists- like Aquino as Founder of the Satanic sect Temple of Set – RARELY hold the truth with Much Regard…
By LoessJedi on July 28, 2014
Format: Paperback

It is interesting that Michael Aquino says that he is putting the police documentation into Extreme Prejudice, basically because it is a well known fact that almost all of the paperwork was ordered to be destroyed by our own government as a matter of national security- and so of course the only things left would be that that favored the Satanist Aquino- whose is the FOUNDER of Temple of Set- a group of people who look forward to the up and coming antichrist.

This book is nothing more than a continuation of a paper he wrote previously entitled “From Psychop to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory” where he is manipulating the facts of the situation in order to “prove” his innocence. It is true that Geraldo hosted a show where he was going to air a family of satanists-but, like what happened when he broke into Al Capone’s secret vault two years previously- the show was a flop due to no one showing up. What is much more telling is his appearance on Oprah- his LAST known public appearance- when 800 people called in afterwards claiming that Aquino had abused them. It is also notable that Aquino marauded around on tv in a Merlin type outfit and heralded his satanic background during this period more than once- often along with ex FBI man Ted Gunderson.

“Satanic Panic” was a title deemed by the False Memory Syndrome Foundation which was formed in 92 to deal with the abuse issues that were coming forward- not just from McMartin and the Presidio but from daycares all over the nation that were claiming that children were coming home with STD’s and had been trafficked to be sexually abused. Interesting that much of the early funding- supporting the FMSF founders such as Ralph Underwager- who was interviewed by Padika magazine claiming that sex between children and adults was no big deal- got much of their early funding from the North American Man Boy Love Association.

As far as Michael Aquino- his prestigious career also includes involvement with the mind control component of our nations MKUltra experiences and is reportedly involved with child disappearances such as Johnny Gosch and Kevin Collins. This man- as the head honcho Satanist in America- has a tendency to gloss over these facts- only presenting himself as an innocent man involved in a witch hunt.

I am happy that he has brought himself once again to the forefront- as these allegations are serious and MUST be looked at- and now that he has come forward- perhaps now is the time for that to happen.

Book Review on “The Trauma Myth: The Truth about Childhood Sexual Abuse- and It’s Aftermath

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My Review

Reading Susan Clancy’s book “The Trauma Myth- The Truth About Childhood Sex Abuse – and It’s Aftermath”, I couldn’t help seeing the woman as a female version of Ralph Underwager giving his Padika interview where he discussed how children actually liked to have sex with adults and that it was society that made it wrong- not the actual act itself. In fact, you don’t have to get farther than the introduction when she writes… “In their well-meaning efforts to raise awareness that sexual abuse is damaging and is never the child’s fault, they have chosen to emphasize characteristics and dynamics of abuse (such as trauma, fear, violence, force, and threats) that do not characterize the experience that MOST VICTIMS have (emphasis mine).” No, according to Clancy’s “research”, most children enjoyed having sex with their abusers and it was society discovering the abuse that caused the traumatization. She says “In stricking contrast to the assumptions of the traumatogenic model, whatever was causing the psychological and cognitive damage these victims reported had nothing to do with trauma; very few victims reported any fear, shock, force, or violence at the time the abuse occurred.”

Not so with my personal experience with abuse. My father would wake me in the middle of the night enraged, beat me, and then become so aroused that it followed with my rape- over and over, night after night. But there is a more insidious reason for the writing of this book than just trying to normalize and pacify the sexual abuse of children. Writing a previous book entitled Abducted: How People Come to Believe They Were Kidnapped By Aliens- this author is a proud member of the False Memory Foundation and basically dismisses all claims of children being satanically ritually abused- which she states in the beginning of the book as well. Vying to be another Elizabeth Loftus- Clancy is a researcher in the field of memory. Her collaborative scientific research mainly focuses on the impacts of trauma on memory and individual susceptibility to false memory creation. In other words- she denies the abuse of children and does her best to minimize the effects on the victims by claiming that it was actually SOCIETY that harmed them and not the initial rape and molestation.

The book was incredibly hard to read- and I would have never known about it had I not googled Doug Mesner’s name and found his review on the book. Actually- Doug was the second person to initially review the book- and has a long conversation with a woman in the comment section where he is his general condescending self. This man is also aka Lucian Greaves- Satanist who is founder of The Church of Satan or something like that. Heralded by the False Memory Foundation as a fantastic journalist- I wonder if Clancy has worked with Mesner- both attending Harvard University. This man is well known for throwing a satanic rally for Rick Scott in Florida and pushing for a statue of the devil to be placed by the Ten Commandments in Oklahoma City. The fact that he was eagerly rushed to validate this book and it’s author says a lot about the book itself in my opinion.

The only thing I agreed on with this book was on page 8- where Clancy writes “In short, traumatic events produce profound and lasting changes in physiological arousal, emotion, cognition, and memory”. I never forgot my rapes- nor did I forget my satanic ritual abuse- none of which was forgotten nor remembered in therapy with hypnosis. I didn’t forget my trauma- but that is not saying that I didn’t spend years desperately trying too. With this said- it was difficult to read this book and get through it without feeling sick to my stomach. The views presented in this book are warped- and her opinions are skewed on behalf of those who would prey on children. She says over and over that abusers are not nice people- but then- the abuse is enjoyable to the children so we, as a society- need to relax about people raping children because her research shows that it generally is a loving and compassionate experience between children and adults. Funny – the North American Man Boy Love Association has been promoting the same idea for years now- but then considering that they were large contributors to the False Memory Foundation when it was forming- this is not surprising. However way you look at it- this book is just wrong and, I will add – disgusting to anyone who has been abused or knows a child who has been.

Below is Mesner’s comment section from his review. Considering that he just postulated his privates in pubic on a gravestone- his haughty manner is pretty unjustified in my opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/review/R305PHFS6G874H/ref=cm_cr_pr_cmt?ie=UTF8&ASIN=046501688X#wasThisHelpful

and so there is no question what I am speaking about… this is Doug Mesner as Satanist Lucien Greaves

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Spingola Speaks- Interview with David Shurter

http://kiwi6.com/file/s2q5sw8am7

The Witch-Hunt Narrative: Politics, Psychology, and the Sexual Abuse of Children

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In the 1980s, a series of child sex abuse cases rocked the United States. The most famous case was the 1984 McMartin preschool case, but there were a number of others as well. By the latter part of the decade, the assumption was widespread that child sex abuse had become a serious problem in America. Yet within a few years, the concern about it died down considerably. The failure to convict anyone in the McMartin case and a widely publicized appellate decision in New Jersey that freed an accused molester had turned the dominant narrative on its head. In the early 1990s, a new narrative with remarkable staying power emerged: the child sex abuse cases were symptomatic of a ‘moral panic’ that had produced a witch hunt. A central claim in this new witch hunt narrative was that the children who testified were not reliable and easily swayed by prosecutorial suggestion. In time, the notion that child sex abuse was a product of sensationalized over-reporting and far less endemic than originally thought became the new common sense.
But did the new witch hunt narrative accurately represent reality? As Ross Cheit demonstrates in his exhaustive account of child sex abuse cases in the past two and a half decades, purveyors of the witch hunt narrative never did the hard work of examining court records in the many cases that reached the courts throughout the nation. Instead, they treated a couple of cases as representative and concluded that the issue was blown far out of proportion. Drawing on years of research into cases in a number of states, Cheit shows that the issue had not been blown out of proportion at all. In fact, child sex abuse convictions were regular occurrences, and the crime occurred far more frequently than conventional wisdom would have us believe. Cheit’s aim is not to simply prove the narrative wrong, however. He also shows how a narrative based on empirically thin evidence became a theory with real social force, and how that theory stood at odds with a far more grim reality. The belief that the charge of child sex abuse was typically a hoax also left us unprepared to deal with the far greater scandal of child sex abuse in the Catholic Church, which, incidentally, has served to substantiate Cheit’s thesis about the pervasiveness of the problem. In sum, The Witch-Hunt Narrative is a magisterial and empirically powerful account of the social dynamics that led to the denial of widespread human tragedy.

http://www.amazon.com/Witch-Hunt-Narrative-Politics-Psychology-Children-ebook/dp/B00LXZTU2U/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=1-1&qid=1406338013