Gordon is all over my book- constantly calling me a liar, crazy , and more- although tonight he admits he has never read the book. Of course I caught him in several lies tonight so what anyone should believe is a good guess. Sorry that the conversation rates right up there with a grade school fight on the playground- but that is the type of behavior I have come to expect from this idiot- who often times uses the 6th grade tactics of “I know you are but what am I” to argue his point. I am putting this conversation on my blog because Gordon has a tendency to cry to Amazon and have all of my replies removed while his stay up. Since he is clamoring for attention- I thought I would give the child what he desires most – an actual venue.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:00:37 AM PDT
LoessJedi says:
whatever. you dont talk facts as much as opinions. and I never called you satanic or a pedophile. however- I did have issue with you saying that pedophilia isn’t a crime. but I am sure you will twist this as you do everything.
funny- your not attacking but I am attacking you. funny how it works that way in your world.
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In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 11:06:32 AM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Yes, actually, you DID say that about me. Multiple times, in fact.
“I did have issue with you saying that pedophilia isn’t a crime.”
Yes. You have a lot of issues with reality. Perhaps you should seek psychological help. But you’re still not addressing the book. 22 Faces, the one you never read.
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Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:14:17 AM PDT
LoessJedi says:
no i didn’t- although i said you were a member of the pedophile protection squad. again- you twist things.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 11:30:49 AM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
You’ve done both. Both are of course lies. And you’re still not talking about the book you never read. Give me a single neurologist who makes reference to this “omega wave” Byington writes about.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:41:09 AM PDT
LoessJedi says:
omega wave allows you to train more efficiently. it also is Forbidden’s fifth album. There is a lot of stuff on Google about it.
lol- you accuse me of talking about a book i supposedly didnt read yet you do the same thing on my book. If that isnt the pot calling the kettle black. and i never called you a satanist. but i do still contend that you have defended pedophilia.
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Gordon_bydand says:
The difference is I never claimed to have read your “book”. In fact, I have specifically said I did not. That in no way precludes me from commenting, particularly as my few remarks have been mainly about your BEHAVIOR HERE, not the book itself.
Yes, you have called me a “satanist”, which is a lie. As is the bit about me “defending” (another scare word! do you collect those?) anything. Stating a FACT is not expressing an opinion. Do learn the difference.
“omega wave allows you to train more efficiently”
Yes, the phony Russian exercise program. I’ve seen it referred to twice, once on that company’s own site, and once when Wired slammed it as a fake, specifically stating (might be slightly paraphrased) that “neurologists have never heard of it”. Thing is, even fraudulent Russian exercise programs aren’t insane enough to think that brainwaves can be used to map personalities onto, like Byington says.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 4:51:43 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
if you havent read the book- why do you go on and on about how bad it is written. can’t have it both ways. again- it is another example of you expressing your opinions as facts and just expecting people to take it at face value. I suggest you take your own advice and LEARN THE DIFFERENCE.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 8:46:31 PM PDT
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Gordon_bydand says:
As I have repeatedly said, I read the sample portions both here and on your website . And OBVIOUSLY when I or anyone else says something is poorly written it’s opinion! This is yet another proof of you not understanding what constitutes ‘opinion’ and what constitutes ‘fact’. And of you continuing to promote your (irrelevant) book in place of this one, so you’re still trolling and still haven’t read 22 Faces.
Allow me to demonstrate the difference between ‘fact’ and ‘opinion’.
Judy Byington and David Shurter are poor writers.
This is an opinion. It is a subjective expression that has no absolute and external truth value, only a relative and internal one.
Judy Byington and David Shurter are liars.
This is a fact. It is an objective statement about the world that has an absolute and external truth value.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:22:18 PM PDT
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LoessJedi says:
dude= you project way too much. Just because you tell yourself something doesnt make it truth= and it doesn’t make you any less dishonest. You twist everything you do and MUST have the last word- which says more about you than it does me.
If you dont want me to talk about myself- then stop talking about me. You lie so much and attack so much and are so childish that it is amazing you are able to maintain yourself to any degree. oh- thats right = you ARENT.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:30:05 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
It’s rare to see so many lies in two poorly-typed incoherent paragraphs. I do not lie. Ever. Show a single time. Go ahead, I invite you to do so. Since you’ve given up even the pretense of having a point related to the book, might as well entertain me for a while.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:35:30 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
you just lied now saying you never lie. YOu twist everything and make yourself out to be the victim. saying you arent a child is also a lie= your “I know you are but what am I” argument is tiring. Just because you have opinions-= generally unwarranted- doesnt make you more than what you are. which isnt much
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:38:34 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
just an anon on Amazon wanting desperately to be heard. ignored like you are in life- which is why you are so disagreeable.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:38:49 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Truly pathetic. You can’t back up anything. I d not lie. Ever. Show a single time. Go ahead, I invite you to do so.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:43:16 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
Suggesting that you are superior in every way is one of the biggest lies you tell yourself. again- what are you but some anon with opinions- which you have formed with no real education to the facts. and you call me pathetic= lmfao.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:44:16 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
just because you are rude doesn’t make you superior. it just means you dont have any other way to express yourself.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:47:52 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
I’m not rude at all. Just because you are illiterate, doesn’t make you superior. It just means you don’t have any other way to express yourself.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 9:49:31 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
You still don’t know what an opinion is. You still throw out made up scare words that don’t mean anything.
And when did I “suggest[] that [I am] superior in every way”, and superior to whom?
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 9:54:25 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
lol- you aren’t superior to anyone.
and you really need to be less scared of words. Never have I seen someone use “scare words” so much as you.
and your insults could be construed as rude. Or childish idiocy- take your pic.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:00:16 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHoXZq9y2UI
David Shurter on Cancel The Cabal
for those of you who want something more than Gordon’s opinions.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:00:23 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
I never said I was scared. I said you use scare words. Come clean , English isn’t your native language, is it?
“your insults could be construed as rude”
Really? Compared to who? The lying quasi-literate hypocritical beggar who goes around calling people satanic pedophiles? To me, THAT is rude…well, several stronger concepts, but rudeness is certainly there.
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LoessJedi says:
oh-more insults. let me cry myself to sleep.
dude= you are just a sad little anon who has no other place than amazon in their pathetic little life. and to tell yourself you are all that is a lie you need to feel better about yourself.
no matter how you insult me- I have a bigger venue and more people listening and interested in me than you ever will.
oh- and just because you fight for the rights of pedophiles doesn’t mean you are enough to be a satanist. they have much higher standards.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:04:23 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
No one wants anything from Shurter’s insipid blog.
Also, I have facts. Learn the difference. For example, all of the FACTual errors committed by Byington that I have pointed out. The “omega wave” for one; I challenged you to provide a single neurologist to back up your side and you couldn’t do it, just some vague mutterings about “a lot of stuff on Google”, despite the burden of proof being on YOU. Neither you nor Byington can show that such a thing exists.
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Gordon_bydand says:
Again with the transparent discrepancy. You can go from “no one knows who you are” to claiming to know all about me without the slightest sign of self-awareness. These two positions are mutually exclusive. Your inconsistent and laughably weak taunts only show you for what you really are.
Also, more lying about me? It’s quite disgusting, and only shows how horrible a human being you must be.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:09:26 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
i could care less about Omega wave. I didn’t write it so there is no burden of proof on me at all.
lhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHoXZq9y2UI
David Shurter on Cancel The Cabal
and I have another radio interview on Saturday so obviously not everyone agrees with your uneducated opinions
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LoessJedi says:
your right Gordon- that is why so many people are interested in what you think. I mean- people are reaching out to you asking your opinion aren’t they?
Oh that’s right- no one is.
cause no one cares about you. Probably the story of your pathetic little life.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:11:28 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
And how do you know this?
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:13:05 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
oh I am wrong? do tell.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:16:48 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Yes, you are, but that’s not the point, and furthermore my private life is just that, private. The point is, you DON’T know, you CAN’T know, this is just more of your hypocritical baseless hatespew. For someone who constantly cries “stop talking about me! you don’t know me!” and “all you have are insults!” you’re the major source of such things. There’s an easy way to avoid this, of course. All you have to do is…talk about the book.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:19:55 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
please= no one cares about you dude. your life is private cause no one could care less. and that is an understatement.
You go on and on about how no one cares what I think and I can prove you wrong. You just have BS excuses.
More lies= but whatever allows you to sleep at night i guess.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHoXZq9y2UI
David Shurter on Cancel The Cabal
Funny- I can SHOW people’s interest in me- not including the 500+ hits a day on my blog – one of which is admittedly you. So even you have interest in me. lol.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:24:51 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
“one of which is admittedly you. So even you have interest in me.”
Nope. I don’t read your blog. I haven’t bothered to do so even out of morbid curiosity for several months now, and this is the first I’ve even acknowledged doing that much. So don’t flatter yourself.
Allow me to rephrase. No one whose interest is in 22 Faces cares what you think. This thread is for 22 Faces. Therefore, no one (reading this) cares what you think.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:29:28 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 8:46:31 PM PDT
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Gordon_bydand says:
As I have repeatedly said, I read the sample portions both here and on your website
so which one is it? you seem to contradict yourself. I am not flattered by you dude- like everyone else in your life I would prefer it if you kept your distance.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:35:12 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
No contradiction at all. Your blog is not the Consider It Creative website, and I read the sample well over a year ago.
And of course more of your hypocrisy and insults that don’t make any sense. You never get tired of that, I see.
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LoessJedi says:
if that aint the pot calling the kettle black.
just admit you are a liar.
I don’t read your blog. I haven’t bothered to do so … for several months now.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 10:41:35 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
again- you can’t show where anyone is interested in you- and I can easily show where people are interested in what I have to say- so your opinions that no one cares about me or what i have to say is false.
You talk out of both sides of your mouth. You say one thing one minute and then contradict yourself the next. Why would ANYONE listen to you?
oh- thats right- they don’t.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:42:19 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
There is absolutely nothing I have said that isn’t true, or that is in any way contradictory. Do you have some kind of learning disability? Or are you just that dishonest?
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:43:18 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Again, you say things that, not only are they not true, but you’d have no way of knowing about. This is what makes you a liar.
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LoessJedi says:
and you spout opinions that are uneducated = which makes you ignorant.
and the fact that you live in here and insult everyone shows people how completely pathetic you are.
“I don’t read your blog. I haven’t bothered to do so even out of morbid curiosity for several months now.” – yet you said you have never been on my blog . so which one is it? you either HAVE been on my blog or you have NEVER been on my blog- either way you are caught in a lie. But like most liars you wont admit it.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 10:51:42 PM PDT
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Gordon_bydand says:
“and the fact that you live in here and insult everyone shows people how completely pathetic you are”
Huh. So…what does that say about you? And I don’t “live in here”, and I don’t “insult everyone”, so really, you’re only succeeding in making YOURSELF look bad. Well, worse. You already look bad for spending two years trolling to defend a book you’ve never read and never talked about.
I don’t think that anyone of your level of literacy is qualified to call someone else “ignorant”. Between the constant demonstrations that you don’t know what a fact or an opinion is, to your bizarre punctuation, you really aren’t MENSA material.
I did not say I had never been there. YOU are lying when you claim that I did.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:02:01 PM PDT
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LoessJedi says:
sorry- i had to copy the conversation before it was gone. I want to post it on my blog and then send them to your comments on my book.
In reply to your post on Aug 5, 2014 11:05:20 PM PDT
Gordon_bydand says:
Am I supposed to care about this? I stand by every word I’ve said. Although I’ve little doubt that you will lie about it, because that’s what you do.
Your post, in reply to an earlier post on Aug 5, 2014 11:06:25 PM PDT
LoessJedi says:
“Your blog is not the Consider It Creative website , and I read the sample well over a year ago.”
so you HAVE been on my blog which shows you have had interest in me.
which one is it?